MLB Discussion Thread - Page 142

Hawk · 05-20-2010, 03:57 PM

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Giantsfan1080 · 05-20-2010, 04:00 PM

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Oh come on, even with terrible decisions today Baker can't even touch Manuel.

It's close with all the terrible moves Baker has made over his career.

Brodeur · 05-20-2010, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

It's close with all the terrible moves Baker has made over his career.

Mike Jacobs hitting cleanup.

Giantsfan1080 · 05-20-2010, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bengals78

Without Hanigan our best C.
And yes when you take out your 2nd best player in Scott Rolen and sub in Miguel Cairo, it is bad really bad.

Let's see the Cards go without Pujols and Holliday.
Would that not be their B-team then?

Anytime you take out some of your best players it ceases to be the "A-team" and becomes the B team.

But Rolen and Gomes aren't your 2 best hitters while Pujols and Holliday are for the Cards. If you took out Votto and Phillips then I could see what you're saying.

Giantsfan1080 · 05-20-2010, 04:02 PM

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Mike Jacobs hitting cleanup.

I'm not defending Manuel. His idiocy speaks for itself just as Baker's does. Last night he took out Dickey who was doing a good job to use a PH to bunt. Ummmmm what?

Tampa 2 4 life · 05-20-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

Mike Jacobs hitting cleanup.

Also, if your pen gives up 7 runs before getting 3 outs, its probably not your manager's fault.

iowatreat54 · 05-20-2010, 04:08 PM

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But Rolen and Gomes aren't your 2 best hitters while Pujols and Holliday are for the Cards. If you took out Votto and Phillips then I could see what you're saying.

Also, their's a difference between playing "B teamers" and playing your "B team."

If you were playing your B team, over half the starters would be backups. Seeing as you only had 2.5 backups in (yes, Ramon Hernandez is your starter. Idc if Hannigan is better, Hernandez is listed as your starter, therefore, he is not a B teamer. But I gave you .5 anyway) that leaves you with 5.5 starters plus the pitcher, including your 2 best hitters and Jay Bruce. That's not fielding your "B team"...that's giving 2 guys the day off and everyone else starting.

Bengals78 · 05-20-2010, 04:09 PM

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Mike Jacobs hitting cleanup.

-Brandon Phillips hitting clean up
-Wily T-Virus hitting lead off
-Brandon Phillips back in clean up
-Miguel Cairo...anything with him
-Corey Patterson batting lead off
-Darnell McDonald at all
-Mike Lincoln in for more than 1 inning
-Cordero in for non saves
-Harang in extra innings
-Pinch hitting a bad hitting pitcher for a good hitting pitcher when you had 3 viable right handed bats off the bench against a LHP
-Never bunting when the time is right
-Forgetting defensive subs work
-"Clogging up the bases"
-Not going for the kill shot and running up the score so the other team can come back
-Mark Prior
-Kerry Wood
-Time on ESPN
-Nick Massett with runners on
- Batting Griffey 3rd out of "respect" despite his .230 BA
-Telling Dunn not to walk as much
-Not arguing a bad call

I got tired. But that is some of it.
Anything in bold is from the last week or 2 weeks.

Bengals78 · 05-20-2010, 04:12 PM

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But Rolen and Gomes aren't your 2 best hitters while Pujols and Holliday are for the Cards. If you took out Votto and Phillips then I could see what you're saying.

Over the past 2 weeks, yes they are.
And you obviously dont pay attention because Phillips is in no way our best hitter.
Bruce has been better lately.
Gomes is hitting over .300 and an RBI machine lately
Rolen has been on fire.
Votto has been slumping.
Phillips continues to hack.

Tampa 2 4 life · 05-20-2010, 04:13 PM

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-Cordero in for non saves

This is stupid.

Giantsfan1080 · 05-20-2010, 04:14 PM

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Over the past 2 weeks, yes they are.
And you obviously dont pay attention because Phillips is in no way our best hitter.
Bruce has been better lately.
Gomes is hitting over .300 and an RBI machine lately
Rolen has been on fire.
Votto has been slumping.
Phillips continues to hack.

You know what I meant. Phillips is a better hitter than Gomes even though he's in a hot streak now. I really should have said Bruce though.

iowatreat54 · 05-20-2010, 04:16 PM

Joey Votto the last 2 weeks:

17/52 14 Runs 4 HR 12 RBI .327 avg

Over the last month:

33/101 20 Runs 8 HR 24 RBI .327 avg

You're right, he's really been slumping....

Gomes has been hot the last 2 weeks, yes, but Votto put up almost idential numbers the last 2 weeks that Gomes has put up in the last month. Votto is your best hitter, by a long shot. Phillips is debatable, but he's still top 3 overall, maybe not right now.

Tampa 2 4 life · 05-20-2010, 04:17 PM

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Phillips continues to hack.

Joey Votto and Jonny Gomes swing at more outside pitches than Phillips does.

Bengals78 · 05-20-2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by iowatreat54

Joey Votto the last 2 weeks:

17/52 14 Runs 4 HR 12 RBI .327 avg

Over the last month:

33/101 20 Runs 8 HR 24 RBI .327 avg

You're right, he's really been slumping....

Gomes has been hot the last 2 weeks, yes, but Votto put up almost idential numbers the last 2 weeks that Gomes has put up in the last month. Votto is your best hitter, by a long shot. Phillips is debatable, but he's still top 3 overall, maybe not right now.

He just picked up against the Brewers. He had 1 hit in the series against STL.
Yeah the past 4 games have been nice but before that he couldnt buy a hit for a week.
For Votto that was a slump. Rolen was hitting the ball well. Bruce was. Gomes was. Phillips is around .250 and will probably stay there.

He tries to lift everything anymore and his hits seem more by accident. He is a moody player who gets disinterested in the game at times.
Right now, he is our 4th best hitter.
Votto
Rolen
Gomes
Bruce
Phillips
Hanigan

iowatreat54 · 05-20-2010, 04:35 PM

Regardless, 3 of your top 5 hitters started. That doesn't constitute as having your B team in.

Either way, I think we can all agree that the Reds **** the bed hilariously and that Dusty is an idiot.

Bengals78 · 05-20-2010, 04:38 PM

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Regardless, 3 of your top 5 hitters started. That doesn't constitute as having your B team in.

Either way, I think we can all agree that the Reds **** the bed hilariously and that Dusty is an idiot.

Cairo is such a downgrade it is lucky I didnt call it the C team.
He botched a play that could have won the game. Rolen makes that play and we win.