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Old 01-08-2014, 02:17 PM    (permalink
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What were the percentages for the 3 that got in?
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I wonder if there were a bunch of Jack Morris supporters who wouldn't vote for Schilling or Moose cause it was Jack's last chance.
Could be. I did a little research and here's the arguments I heard against both guys:

Schilling
-Not enough wins (shakes head)
-Not as worthy as other guys on the ballot (although he was eligible last year so....)
-Never won a Cy Young

Personally Schilling seems like a massive douche, but as long as he wasn't a cheater I don't see how he doesn't get in.


Mike Mussina
-First ballot (I agree he's not in that class, so ok, but I thought he'd get more)
-Career ERA of 3.68 (which for the era was still great, but whatever)
-Never won a Cy Young
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The arguments are whatever. I agree they should both wait a bit, especially with this years class. But I'm also surprised how low the number was. Mussina was always kind of douchey to the print media as well. He was kind of an elitist.
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Jacque Jones and Armando Benitez each got a vote!
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Next year Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez, and John Smoltz will all be eligible, so I'm not sure it'll get much better.
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Jacque Jones and Armando Benitez each got a vote!
So did J.T. Snow.
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So did J.T. Snow.
Snow got 2 votes!!!

Morris 61.5%
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Congratulations to Glavine, Maddux and Thomas. All of them deserve it.

Biggio will get in next year.
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Bummed about Biggio, but I'm much more sad about Bagwell, the best Astro ever by a fair margain. He's a tiny shade below Thomas as a hitter, and was a muuuuuuuuch better defender and baserunner. Thomas gets in 1st ballot, Bagwell regresses to about 30% below Thomas. I don't get it.
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guys we're on page 999 here. at least in my extended weird thread viewing.
Something got screwed up so I had to get rid of threaded format. Now I'm in ugly linear.

Though to be honest, so many people here don't realize there is a difference and don't both responding to the right thread anyway.
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LeBatard is fantastic.
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Bummed about Biggio, but I'm much more sad about Bagwell, the best Astro ever by a fair margain. He's a tiny shade below Thomas as a hitter, and was a muuuuuuuuch better defender and baserunner. Thomas gets in 1st ballot, Bagwell regresses to about 30% below Thomas. I don't get it.
I don't get it either. For all of the gnashing of teeth about Biggio and Piazza I'd put Bagwell in over both of them (plus Schilling and Mussina)
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What did LeBatard do?
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http://deadspin.com/revealed-the-hal...lot-1496558341

The irony of this stupid self-serving (and yes, it's self-serving) process is that THEY didn't elect any of the steroid guys either. I can't believe they actually ran this like it mattered at all.
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He let Deadspin readers choose his HoF ballot.
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Piazza has a slight edge over Bagwell for me because of position.
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Piazza has a slight edge over Bagwell for me because of position.
Except Piazza was a terrible catcher.
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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
Except Piazza was a terrible catcher.
Which isn't true at all except for his ability to throw runners out. Everything else he actually did really well including calling a game which is the most important.

Bagwell was a horrific 1B anyways.
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