MLB Discussion Thread - Page 169

Hines · 05-31-2010, 03:24 PM

Man, can the Pirates play the Cubs all year? 6-1 against them with a very low ERA.

Borat · 05-31-2010, 03:41 PM

Lincecum Day has sucked for the last 3-4 weeks.

Happy Memorial Day everyone!

Whistler6 · 05-31-2010, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by P-L

Jimenez is benefiting from an absurd amount of luck. I'll take Halladay over the rest of the year as well...

It's really hard for me to see 0.86 ERA and a .176 opponent batting average, along with 1 homerun and only 25 walks in 75+ innings as "luck." He's dominant and more than 9 years younger than Halladay. I think ya'll are crazy if you would take Halladay over Jimenez going forward. But that's me...Maybe I'm biased, because he has carried my fantasy team all year.

Brodeur · 05-31-2010, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Whistler6

It's really hard for me to see 0.86 ERA and a .176 opponent batting average, along with 1 homerun and only 25 walks in 75+ innings as "luck." He's dominant and more than 9 years younger than Halladay. I think ya'll are crazy if you would take Halladay over Jimenez going forward. But that's me...Maybe I'm biased, because he has carried my fantasy team all year.

Extremely high strand rate, extremely low HR/FB% and a very low BABIP. He's been very good, but for THIS YEAR, I would take Halladay going forward.

Whistler6 · 05-31-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

Extremely high strand rate, extremely low HR/FB% and a very low BABIP. He's been very good, but for THIS YEAR, I would take Halladay going forward.

What's the wager? Wins, ERA, K's, CG's, I'll take Jimenez for any.

Brodeur · 05-31-2010, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Whistler6

What's the wager? Wins, ERA, K's, CG's, I'll take Jimenez for any.

Greinke is 1-6 and is still pretty damn good, so that rules out your wins. Jimenez is not going to keep up this pace (Greinke had slightly worse basic numbers last year but far better peripherals at the time, and that's why he was able to keep it up) with his ERA, so that's not really very important. Halladay is the king of complete games in terms of any pitcher, and K's are pretty much a wash.

Halladay still wins.

bored of education · 05-31-2010, 04:14 PM

So, when will Carlos Santana start beasting in Cleveland?

Whistler6 · 05-31-2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

Greinke is 1-6 and is still pretty damn good, so that rules out your wins. Jimenez is not going to keep up this pace (Greinke had slightly worse basic numbers last year but far better peripherals at the time, and that's why he was able to keep it up) with his ERA, so that's not really very important. Halladay is the king of complete games in terms of any pitcher, and K's are pretty much a wash.

Halladay still wins.

**** you, but you're right. I've got nothing else. And ERA might be the most overrated stat in all of baseball. That was out of love.

bored of education · 05-31-2010, 04:17 PM

if you divide era by wins per appearance % square rooted then times it by run support plus whip = epicness

Brodeur · 05-31-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bored of education

So, when will Carlos Santana start beasting in Cleveland?

I'd assume some time within the next couple of weeks.

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Originally Posted by Whistler6

**** you, Lions suck...But you're right. I've got nothing else. And ERA might be the most overrated stat in all of baseball.
=)

At least the city doesn't have Jeff Suppan.

Tampa 2 4 life · 05-31-2010, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

Greinke is 1-6 and is still pretty damn good, so that rules out your wins. Jimenez is not going to keep up this pace (Greinke had slightly worse basic numbers last year but far better peripherals at the time, and that's why he was able to keep it up) with his ERA, so that's not really very important. Halladay is the king of complete games in terms of any pitcher, and K's are pretty much a wash.

Halladay still wins.

Uh you're forgetting the part where Ubaldo had the fastest fastball the last two years.

Brodeur · 05-31-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tampa 2 4 life

Uh you're forgetting the part where Ubaldo had the fastest fastball the last two years.

I don't see how that's relevant to my point.

Whistler6 · 05-31-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

At least the city doesn't have Jeff Suppan.

Ah, so nothing is off limits huh? The game done changed...

nobodyinparticular · 05-31-2010, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tampa 2 4 life

His HR/FB rate hasn't been this high for a year since 2006.

But seriously, he's not juicing. He's just getting better with age. Like a good wine.

:rollseyes:

Bengals78 · 05-31-2010, 06:02 PM

Bronson Arroyo decided to have one of his bad games in an important game. Great.

HChu · 05-31-2010, 06:02 PM

It's official, Stephen Strasburg to make his major league debut on June 8th versus the Pittsburgh Pirates.

http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/...=.jsp&c_id=was

Brodeur · 05-31-2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nobodyinparticular

But seriously, he's not juicing. He's just getting better with age. Like a good wine.

:rollseyes:

It's possible to gain some power as you age, and roids don't really change anything.

The Braves are in first place, woooooooooooooo! And since I'm also taking the reigns of a Rockies fan, UBALDO DOES IT AGAINNNNNNNNN (with a **** ton of pitches).

djp · 05-31-2010, 06:25 PM

If you had to name an all defensive MLB team, who would be on it?

Brodeur · 05-31-2010, 06:31 PM

C: Joe Mauer (I guess)
1B: Albert Pujols
2B: Chase Utley
SS: Elvis Andrus
3B: Adrian Beltre
LF: Carl Crawford
CF: Franklyn Gutierrez
RF: Nelson Cruz (another I guess)

djp · 05-31-2010, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

C: Joe Mauer (I guess)
1B: Albert Pujols
2B: Chase Utley
SS: Elvis Andrus
3B: Adrian Beltre
LF: Carl Crawford
CF: Franklyn Gutierrez
RF: Nelson Cruz (another I guess)

Was wondering if you'd say Mauer. I love Mauer of course, but I think he's overrated defensively. Great arm, but sometimes I question his pitch calling and he's had some problems receiving the ball on plays at the plate, although he had an amazing tag in the Texas game on Saturday.

How about Ichiro in right? Or is he just overrated defensively? Markakis? Carlos Gonzalez? Choo?

Brodeur · 05-31-2010, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by djp

Was wondering if you'd say Mauer. I love Mauer of course, but I think he's overrated defensively. Great arm, but sometimes I question his pitch calling and he's had some problems receiving the ball on plays at the plate, although he had an amazing tag in the Texas game on Saturday.

How about Ichiro in right? Or is he just overrated defensively? Markakis? Carlos Gonzalez? Choo?

I don't think Markakis is all that great defensively, and Choo is good but his arm makes him seem better than he is. For the other two, CarGo will probably end up back in center eventually and for now, he's now overtly great in right, and Ichiro is probably up there with Cruz.

As for catcher, I would have said Laird but I think last year was an aberration of excellence.

Chucky · 05-31-2010, 06:40 PM

******* Joe West.

thenewfeature06 · 05-31-2010, 06:42 PM

C: Yadier Molina (Love Mauer but the things Molina can do back there are insane)
1B: Mark Teixeira
2B: Brandon Phillips/O Dog
SS: Jimmy Rollins/Jeter
3B: David Wright
LF: Carl Crawford
CF: Marlon Byrd
RF: Ichiro

bored of education · 05-31-2010, 06:48 PM

well your shortstop might raise some eye brows. jusss saying

djp · 05-31-2010, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by thenewfeature06

C: Yadier Molina (Love Mauer but the things Molina can do back there are insane)
1B: Mark Teixeira
2B: Brandon Phillips/O Dog
SS: Derek Jeter
3B: David Wright
LF: Carl Crawford
CF: Marlon Byrd
RF: Ichiro

Jeter and Hudson are extremely overrated defensively imo. Tex has a good glove but I dont think he has the range that Pujols has.