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Old 01-07-2011, 03:36 PM    (permalink
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I wished the Pirates got Garza.
So they can be a better last place team? You should be holding onto your prospects.
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I wished the Pirates got Garza.
Its okay Hines, Papa Yoda is here, I am here for u, I will caress u.
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So they can be a better last place team? You should be holding onto your prospects.
I woulda just offered Hanrahan and a AA pitching prospect. If not, then forget it.
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I wished the Pirates got Garza.
Because they would have had to pay Garza. They dont pay players they just trade them.
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What GF said about this. Maddux is way better than Rivera, and you should know better than to claim otherwise.
Of course he is because he is a SP. But Rivera is hands down the best ever at his position. Where as Maddux a lot of times wasn't even the best SP in his rotation. At least in my opinion.
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Of course he is because he is a SP. But Rivera is hands down the best ever at his position. Where as Maddux a lot of times wasn't even the best SP in his rotation. At least in my opinion.
He was by far the best pitcher in the Braves rotation, and it wasn't even close. Don't give me that ****.
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Old 01-07-2011, 05:26 PM    (permalink
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He was by far the best pitcher in the Braves rotation, and it wasn't even close. Don't give me that ****.
Over the course of his career his was. But if I needed one win in a big game in the playoffs, I'm going with Smoltz. If Maddux wasn't getting his normal 6 extra inches on each side of the plate, he wasn't as effective.
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Over the course of his career his was. But if I needed one win in a big game in the playoffs, I'm going with Smoltz. If Maddux wasn't getting his normal 6 extra inches on each side of the plate, he wasn't as effective.
I.........just no. Just no Jughead, you're better than this.
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I.........just no. Just no Jughead, you're better than this.
I know you hate this but baseball is more than numbers. Maddux's are phenominal. But I've never seen a pitcher get more plate than Maddux in his career. And in the late 90's I certainly feared Smoltz more than Maddux. Smoltz could just dominate you. Maddux's game was too dependant on how lenient the ump was going to be that night. More times than not he got the extra inches from him thoguh.
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So ummm... the Yankees... lol at their offseason. They've pretty much gotten owned.

On the other hand, LOVE what the Red Sox did. Adding Carl Crawford and Adrian Gonzalez... scary.
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I know you hate this but baseball is more than numbers. Maddux's are phenominal. But I've never seen a pitcher get more plate than Maddux in his career. And in the late 90's I certainly feared Smoltz more than Maddux. Smoltz could just dominate you. Maddux's game was too dependant on how lenient the ump was going to be that night. More times than not he got the extra inches from him thoguh.
It wasn't that much of a difference from all random star pitchers. I still say Pedro in his prime is better than any pitcher I will ever see, but Maddux is easily top three.
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So ummm... the Yankees... lol at their offseason. They've pretty much gotten owned.

On the other hand, LOVE what the Red Sox did. Adding Carl Crawford and Adrian Gonzalez... scary.
Well this was a weak offseason. I don't think the Yankees ever really wanted anyone except obviously Lee. I think they had interest in Werth but not real strong interest.
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So ummm... the Yankees... lol at their offseason. They've pretty much gotten owned.

On the other hand, LOVE what the Red Sox did. Adding Carl Crawford and Adrian Gonzalez... scary.
They have way too many defensively inefficient guys on the team, that is their main problem.
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They have way too many defensively inefficient guys on the team, that is their main problem.
It's just really Jeter and A-Rod. Everyone else is solid or better.
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It's just really Jeter and A-Rod. Everyone else is solid or better.
They are stuck with them both for a long ass time, and Posada isn't exactly a world beater anymore.
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They are stuck with them both for a long ass time, and Posada isn't exactly a world beater anymore.
Well Posada isn't catching this year. At least not more than 10-15 games. Eventually A-Rod will be our DH and hopefully Jeter can take to 3B quickly. Jeter is only one year removed from a very solid defensive season. A-Rod's been bad for a few years now.
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Montero is also pretty terrible defensively.
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Nick Swisher is terrible also.

Pedro Martinez was the best pitcher I'll ever see. His 99 and 00 seasons are just ridiculous.
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Swisher isn't terrible. He's ok. RF at Yankee Stadium is easy enough to play for him. On the road at some of the bigger parks, he's a bit of an adventure.
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Swisher isn't terrible. He's ok. RF at Yankee Stadium is easy enough to play for him. On the road at some of the bigger parks, he's a bit of an adventure.
Nope I'm pretty sure he messes up more balls in RF than I've seen in a while. He's a butcher.
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DONT YOU DARE BAD TALK NICK SWISHER!
what he lacks in D he makes up for in pure sexiness and awesomeness
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what he lacks in D he makes up for in pure sexiness and awesomeness
He's a great person and a very good hitter. He's actually one of the Yankees I can tolerate. It still doesn't make up for his pathetic attempt at playing the OF.
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I know you hate this but baseball is more than numbers. Maddux's are phenominal. But I've never seen a pitcher get more plate than Maddux in his career. And in the late 90's I certainly feared Smoltz more than Maddux. Smoltz could just dominate you. Maddux's game was too dependant on how lenient the ump was going to be that night. More times than not he got the extra inches from him thoguh.

So you don't fear better players? Interesting thought.
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So you don't fear better players? Interesting thought.

I hear that argument all the time and no one ever brings up that it makes absolutely zero sense. Kudos.
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I hope the Reds win the WS and have Larkin Rose and Conception piss on a replica of the HoF.
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