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Old 03-01-2011, 10:39 AM    (permalink
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Well Brodeur is right. FIP makes a lot more sense than ERA at this point. Joba is not as bad as Yankees fans make him out to be right now but he also certainly shouldn't be the big name in a deal for Liriano. We still don't know if Joba can really start at this point but there is a good chance he still can. It's funny that Liriano last year was also much better than his ERA would indicate. I'm sure the Yankees know this about him and Joba.
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Well Brodeur is right. FIP makes a lot more sense than ERA at this point. Joba is not as bad as Yankees fans make him out to be right now but he also certainly shouldn't be the big name in a deal for Liriano. We still don't know if Joba can really start at this point but there is a good chance he still can. It's funny that Liriano last year was also much better than his ERA would indicate. I'm sure the Yankees know this about him and Joba.
He's not the trash that some made him about to be, but I'd pack his bags for him if he was the centerpiece with Nova in a deal for Liriano.
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He's not the trash that some made him about to be, but I'd pack his bags for him if he was the centerpiece with Nova in a deal for Liriano.

Currently...as would I. The issue is the front office will not allow him to start again.

Maybe it really is his shoulder that won't allow it. And if thats the case then he can go.
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Psh, I took over that role a long time ago. And I'm doing it with limited actual mention of advanced stats, but just going into things that effect those advanced stats.
How nice of you. Don't be afraid to bust out the SABR names.
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Chris Carpenter is hurt now. Left his start today early.
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you say this as if the Pirates won't finish in 6th in the division regardless.
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I was trying to be nice.
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I think he meant it in a good way. Like a party not a beating.
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I think he meant it in a good way. Like a party not a beating.
hmmm...interesting...I guess we will need ATL to confirm. Don't remember if he is a pro-SABR guy or not.
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hmmm...interesting...I guess we will need ATL to confirm. Don't remember if he is a pro-SABR guy or not.
He is definitely a part of the SABR revolution. He was apart of the trio with T24L and myself a few years ago.
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What's your predictions on Justin Morneau this season?
I heard a strong gust of wind in Florida just made him dizzy again.

I don't get how Aaron Rodgers can get two concussions in a physical sport and win the Super Bowl and Morneau/Bay get one in a non contact spot and miss half a year. Americans > Canadians.
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He is definitely a part of the SABR revolution. He was apart of the trio with T24L and myself a few years ago.
I'm still in the middle but I do lean towards most SABR related stuff now. I just don't like how the a lot of the SABR side now thinks that they are always right no matter what. You still need a good mix of the numbers and the eye test.
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I'm still in the middle but I do lean towards most SABR related stuff now. I just don't like how the a lot of the SABR side now thinks that they are always right no matter what. You still need a good mix of the numbers and the eye test.
Main thing that gets me going about it, is I feel sometimes people want to argue over which stat is superior to the other for ranking players rather than caring about the result on the field.

Also the big teams have caught up and the small market "geniuses" latest attempt to find value where big teams aren't looking, has failed miserably in my opinion.
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Main thing that gets me going about it, is I feel sometimes people want to argue over which stat is superior to the other for ranking players rather than caring about the result on the field.

Also the big teams have caught up and the small market "geniuses" latest attempt to find value where big teams aren't looking, has failed miserably in my opinion.
Pretty sure Friedman disproved your last point, but sure.
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Pretty sure Friedman disproved your last point, but sure.
I'm not sure he did. Too many others failed. He also had some really good bats that some are gone now or whose clock turned midnight and switched back to a pumpkin (Zobrist). We'll see this year.
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I usually don't read sports books but I'm excited for Jonah Keri's The Extra 2%. It's about the Rays rise to a good team.
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I don't think Friedman failed. This year look how much they lost yet they're still expected to put up 85 wins. Let's see how it works out for them before we call it a failure.
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I heard a strong gust of wind in Florida just made him dizzy again.

I don't get how Aaron Rodgers can get two concussions in a physical sport and win the Super Bowl and Morneau/Bay get one in a non contact spot and miss half a year. Americans > Canadians.
Because he's already had 3-4 concussions playing hockey in Canada as a teenager. Can't speak for Bay, but Morneau has a history of head injuries. Ron Villone knocked him out with a pitch a few years back as well.

ps: Getting 2 concussions in a year and taking punishment before being recovered is a recipe for disaster later in life.
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What's your predictions on Justin Morneau this season?
Probably something like a .365-.375 OBP with 25-30 homers and 100 RBI. Probably going to start out terribly this year. Don't anticipate the concussion itself keeping him out much. Just gonna be really rusty.
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