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Old 07-06-2011, 09:37 PM    (permalink
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Papelbon has really good peripherals, I would take him if I didn't despise him more than anyone in baseball not named AJ Pierzynski.
I used to love Papelbon. He was one of the more entertaining, dominant pitchers in the majors when he first came up throwing gas and that nasty splitter. You could put him out there in any situation, for multiple innings at a time even. Then we found out about his personality, lost 4 MPH on his fastball, and stopped throwing breaking balls for no apparent reason.

The worst part is he now can only pitch in save situations, which is just about the most unprofessional load of **** ever. If you're a big league pitcher, you should damn well be ready to pitch when the team needs you most. Sometimes, that's in the 7th or 8th inning with a few runners on rather than a meaningless victory lap in the 9th. He used to be great for that...now not so much.


As far as that trade proposal and the rest of it goes; fantasy baseball ********. Wouldn't make sense for either team. Why would we want to take on a gigantic salary of a problematic player AND give up prospects when we're basically getting equal return? Just doesn't make sense whatsoever. Papelbon may have lost form in a major way and may be a major douche, but a real good percentage of the time he's an above average closer. We'll let him walk at the end of the year and get a draft pick and be happy with that.
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Old 07-06-2011, 09:37 PM    (permalink
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You can only get a save when the team is up by 3 or less...
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He enters the game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches for at least one inning
He enters the game, regardless of the count, with the potential tying run either on base, at bat or on deck
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That's not really the point though, I meant big leads as far as saves go (i.e. tonight - up 3, he gives up a run, but still gets the save)
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Oh hush...Renteria was a World Series MVP.
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I hate that goddamn trade so much. I hated it then, and I hate it now. Just like Scott Sizemore for David ******* Purcey. UGH.
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Old 07-06-2011, 10:20 PM    (permalink
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I stand by McCutchen as first half MVP.
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Prince did a pretty bad job picking his HR team also. How do you not at least take Upton for the hometown crowd.

Needs more Mike Stanton as well.

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And you'd be wrong.




Needs more Mike Stanton as well.



Good.
Yes. He hit a walk-off rope tonight. 2nd or 3rd game-winning hit this season. Been slumping lately, not walking much at all, but his batting average at around .250 isn't awful and he's swiped a couple of bags recently for some reason.
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The Giants can't beat the Padres, not since last year. It can't be done.
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If Jair wins the CY Young, I will go ballistic on both Dombrowski and Renteria.
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I hate that goddamn trade so much. I hated it then, and I hate it now. Just like Scott Sizemore for David ******* Purcey. UGH.
I kinda like that one.
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Wait why would K-Rod crumble in Boston?
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Needs more Mike Stanton as well.



Good.
I said before Prince picked that Stanton needs to be in this thing every year until he retires.
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Upton has more power :)
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If the Mets are going to trade K-Rod, I would assume they would want cheap players, and prospects to shed salary. If the Red Sox want to replace Papelbon with K-Rod, they could work a three way deal with some NL team (Brewers? Cardinals?) so Papelbon can pitch there.
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We wouldn't want Papelbon. We're going to go young at closer so we can save money to re-sign Jose.
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I think you misunderstood what he was saying. I believe he was suggesting that Papelbon go to the other team involved in the deal (the Brewers or Cardinals as he suggested).
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It's very possible I did screw that up.

Anyway looks like Reyes is out for about 3 more weeks. He just lost himself a good amount of money on his contract. It's also probably a good thing for the Mets so they could possibly retain him at a much cheaper price and also so they don't think this winning streak doesn't mean we're actually contenders. Beltran has been a great Met but he can net us something good at the deadline.
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How's Beltran's glove these days? I'm pretty confident that we can get some meaningful contributions from Josh Reddick and Darnell McDonald has been coming around as the 4th outfielder, but another player just in case if the price was right wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.
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How's Beltran's glove these days? I'm pretty confident that we can get some meaningful contributions from Josh Reddick and Darnell McDonald has been coming around as the 4th outfielder, but another player just in case if the price was right wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.
He's been about average for us. RF in Citi is really tough also and he's made pretty much all the plays that were near him. His range is no longer what it was but he's no slouch out there. He should be fine in Fenway.
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It's very possible I did screw that up.

Anyway looks like Reyes is out for about 3 more weeks. He just lost himself a good amount of money on his contract. It's also probably a good thing for the Mets so they could possibly retain him at a much cheaper price and also so they don't think this winning streak doesn't mean we're actually contenders. Beltran has been a great Met but he can net us something good at the deadline.
Shame. It's been awesome to watch him play this year, and seeing him get an MVP would have just been fantastic. As you said though, no chance we aren't sellers now, and hopefully Reyes comes back cheaper.

And I'll miss Beltran, but there's a really good chance we get an attractive piece for him. If this is the case, it's an absolute must that we deal him.

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How's Beltran's glove these days? I'm pretty confident that we can get some meaningful contributions from Josh Reddick and Darnell McDonald has been coming around as the 4th outfielder, but another player just in case if the price was right wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.
Average-Slightly above. Range has been greatly depleted, but he still gets good jumps, good arm, and isn't going to make errors. He's going to make a really nice add for a contender.
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Yeah he just made his first error of the year in this series against the Dodgers and it wasn't really his fault because the ball took a weird hop between the grass and the line. I'd deal him ASAP to get the best player back.
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Yeah he just made his first error of the year in this series against the Dodgers and it wasn't really his fault because the ball took a weird hop between the grass and the line. I'd deal him ASAP to get the best player back.

I'd deal him no matter what, but now I just question if we can actually get something really valuable back. I was resigned to the fact that we'd just get an alright prospect or two for him, but now I'm starting to think we can get something good.
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