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Old 08-11-2011, 11:16 PM    (permalink
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I'm still scratching my head on how the Giants won the WS with that AAA offense.
Once you get into the playoffs pitching can take over. But teams like the Giants will have trouble making the playoffs in most years. Offense wins in the regular season, pitching wins in the post season.
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First of all those additions are not very good. Matsui is shot. Willingham is a platoon player. DeJesus is a decent player. Without going over the individual players on the 2010 team, I can't tell you? Did they overachieve? To be honest I'm surprised you were even that high in 2010. There are basically no good hitters in that lineup.
You're evaluation of them is ridiculous. Maybe you're spoiled from watching the Yankees who have potential all stars at every position. Not every team has that.

Matsui just came off a 15 game hit streak and is red hot. No idea why you think Willingham is a platoon player but Dejesus is decent. Willingham has been a better hitter than him every year he's been in the league. Willingham and Dejesus were both improvements offensively over who they replaced coming into the year.
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You're evaluation of them is ridiculous. Maybe you're spoiled from watching the Yankees who have potential all stars at every position. Not every team has that.
I agree. And not every team is very good. You need to start with getting an All Star at any position.
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I agree. And not every team is very good. You need to start with getting an All Star at any position.
Never said they were very good, simply that they should have improved to be closer to middle of the pack.
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Never said they were very good, simply that they should have improved to be closer to middle of the pack.
I just hate Billy Beane and think they are still terrible. DOn't mean to take it out on you.
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Wait...why is Willingham a platoon player? His splits are fine.
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Wait...why is Willingham a platoon player? His splits are fine.
On a good team he is. He's certainly better against lefties.
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There's tons of teams in contention for the playoffs that would take a consistent .800+ OPS outfielder on their roster over what they have. He's certainly not a great player, but the platoon player thing doesn't make a ton of sense.
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Willingham is better than both of the two big AL East teams right fielders, but sure a platoon hitter on a contender. Whatever you say.
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Willingham is better than both of the two big AL East teams right fielders, but sure a platoon hitter on a contender. Whatever you say.
This year he is. Swisher has been better the last two years. And RF is certainly a position I'd like to upgrade. I have no clue why the Yankees just don't let Montero play there in the minors. See if he can cut it.
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This year he is. Swisher has been better the last two years. And RF is certainly a position I'd like to upgrade. I have no clue why the Yankees just don't let Montero play there in the minors. See if he can cut it.
They were basically equal as hitters, Willingham just got hurt more and is worse defensively. Montero would be awful in right.
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Regardless of whatever anybody may think of Willingham, if he's your best offensive player, then your offense is really bad which was the point all along.
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They were basically equal as hitters, Willingham just got hurt more and is worse defensively. Montero would be awful in right.
How do you know that?
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Because it seems like he has no athletic ability at all besides being able to hit a baseball.
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Because it seems like he has no athletic ability at all besides being able to hit a baseball.
And this is different than many corner OFs how? You can't say he is or he isn't until he's played there. The fact that the Yankees haven't done it yet is the only logical reasoning one could make for saying he'd be terrible.
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You do need some athletic ability to play right.
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And this is different than many corner OFs how? You can't say he is or he isn't until he's played there. The fact that the Yankees haven't done it yet is the only logical reasoning one could make for saying he'd be terrible.
The fact that the Yanks haven't even tried him in the OF once should tell you enough plus from every scouting report you ever read sounds like there is no way he can run around in the OF.
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You do need some athletic ability to play right.
It depends on the field. RF is the easier corner spot to play in Yankee Stadium. Normally you stick the weakest defender in left as he has the shortest throws but RF is small enough in Yankee Stadium, that I don't think its a huge deal. And by all reports, it is not Montero's arm strength that makes him a poor catcher.
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Preferably in left too, but if you can hit you pretty much get a pass.
Definitely at Fenway. Why don't they play Crawford in right? He's being wasted in LF. Especially if continues to hit the way he is.
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The Twins were finally going to have their A lineup on the field tonight but of course Cuddyer strains his neck in batting practice. This is the season from hell.
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