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Old 12-05-2011, 12:37 PM    (permalink
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It was said that they weren't really suitors for him, though.
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Rumour is that Fielder has narrowed his options to 3 teams: Brewers, Rangers, and Jays, with the Jays being the early favourites.
Rangers value hitting over starting pitching, but I think they will roll the dice with Moreland/Young at 1B. I think they are being mentioned just to drive up his asking price when in reality they aren't going for him.
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Marlins offer Pujols TEN YEAR Contact.Yeah that would'nt come back to bit them later in the deal
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lol ten year contract.. sounds like a genius idea.
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The Marlins are going to go bankrupt before that team is ready to contend. Jesus.

Oh, and I wanted Kevin Slowey. Don't ask why because I don't know, but I wanted him. Maybe it's because he's from Pittsburgh and I think he'd do better in the NL Central and not at Coors.
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:46 PM    (permalink
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Well, i'm sure they're gonna start seeing some steady streams of revenue with their relocation and increased marketing value, but i really don't know if it'll be enough to compensate for the HUGE increase in payroll they're looking at.

As of now, it isn't known if Pujols was given a no-trade clause, but that could be really important a few years down the line when this blows up in their face and they're paying a 36 year old Pujols $20M+
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Well, i'm sure they're gonna start seeing some steady streams of revenue with their relocation and increased marketing value, but i really don't know if it'll be enough to compensate for the HUGE increase in payroll they're looking at.

As of now, it isn't known if Pujols was given a no-trade clause, but that could be really important a few years down the line when this blows up in their face and they're paying a 36 year old Pujols $20M+
Even if they see a boost in revenue stream, my guess it would only be temporary. A new fad that will die down quickly. They just don't care enough down there to consistently fill any ballpark.
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Let the rebuilding begin.
http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story...-nestor-molina
What can Jays fans tell me about Nestor Molina? I hear decent, but not great, stuff, and a lot of deception. The Sox did hire Marco Paddy from the Jays, so this might have been his idea.
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If the Marlins actually win in the new stadium, people will go to the games. I don't think people realize how miserable it was watching a baseball game at Dolphins Stadium. That said, giving Pujols 10 years right now is freaking stupid.
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I don't know what the Marlins are thinking, but I think it's interesting for the game of baseball.

I thought the Reyes signing was a mistake because the guy's game is built of speed... and if there's one thing with age it's that you lose your speed faster than anything else.
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I don't know what the Marlins are thinking, but I think it's interesting for the game of baseball.

I thought the Reyes signing was a mistake because the guy's game is built of speed... and if there's one thing with age it's that you lose your speed faster than anything else.
That and he's only had 3 really good season out of 8.
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It's OK to spend a billion dollars in free agency, but it's not to spend money in the draft. Baseball's financial system is a joke. It's ruining smaller market teams. Might as well contract them at this rate.

Maybe I'm just bitter because the Pirates suck and will probably continue to suck till when my children's children have children.
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It's OK to spend a billion dollars in free agency, but it's not to spend money in the draft. Baseball's financial system is a joke. It's ruining smaller market teams. Might as well contract them at this rate.

Maybe I'm just bitter because the Pirates suck and will probably continue to suck till when my children's children have children.
They did up the luxury tax. Enough so where the Yankees have already stated by 2013 they plan to be under it because they are done giving millions of dollars away to team like the Pirates amongst others.

Overall, I'm surprised the players rushed so quickly into this deal. It seems like it's only going to keep player's contracts down.

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That and he's only had 3 really good season out of 8.
He was rushed up quickly so it's not fair to count his first few years. He's a top 3 SS in the game and got signed for pretty cheap all things considered.
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4th round pick if they sign Pujols GF?

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He was rushed up quickly so it's not fair to count his first few years. He's a top 3 SS in the game and got signed for pretty cheap all things considered.
He is top 3. But SS is weak all around. Probably the weakest position in baseball currently. No need to overpay at that position. If it was so cheap, why did no one else seem to want him?
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Let the rebuilding begin.
http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story...-nestor-molina
What can Jays fans tell me about Nestor Molina? I hear decent, but not great, stuff, and a lot of deception. The Sox did hire Marco Paddy from the Jays, so this might have been his idea.
Looks like AA made up for the Mathis deal pretty quickly. Santos for a back end SP.
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Ouch.
:( Yup. As if the 3rd wasn't bad enough.
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:( Yup. As if the 3rd wasn't bad enough.
Isn't that based over 3 years?
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He is top 3. But SS is weak all around. Probably the weakest position in baseball currently. No need to overpay at that position. If it was so cheap, why did no one else seem to want him?
I'm sure other teams were in on him even though we didn't hear about it. I'm sure a good amount of teams were also scared off by the injuries issue. Taking SS out of the equation Reyes is still a top player in the majors regardless of position. He was arguably the MVP for 2/3 of last year. The Marlins are going to be scary offensively with or without Pujols.
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Isn't that based over 3 years?
Yeah he is rated a lower FA than Pujols and Bell. Pujols makes sense but for a SS to be behind a closer shows how terrible the system is.
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Looks like AA made up for the Mathis deal pretty quickly. Santos for a back end SP.
I disagree completely. I think Molina has what it takes to be a 2 or 3 in the league, maybe even an ace if he gets there. I don't like the deal at all from the Jays side, but I just don't like relievers.
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I disagree completely. I think Molina has what it takes to be a 2 or 3 in the league, maybe even an ace if he gets there. I don't like the deal at all from the Jays side, but I just don't like relievers.
I don't know I see Molina as a 4 at best.
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I don't know I see Molina as a 4 at best.
He's got elite command, a good splitter, a fastball with a decent sink on it, and his changeup/slider are evolving. He hasn't even been pitching that long, he will be better than you think........(if not, he'll be an awesome closer).
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He's got elite command, a good splitter, a fastball with a decent sink on it, and his changeup/slider are evolving. He hasn't even been pitching that long, he will be better than you think........(if not, he'll be an awesome closer).
So basically you think he ends up just like Santos?
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