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Old 12-09-2011, 02:07 PM    (permalink
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Andrew Friedman is a god.
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I guess. I'm sure he tries to get a deal like this for everyone. But I imagine many players aren't so accepting. Why wouldn't he does this with Price?
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Price had a major league contract from the time he was drafted so it might have been a little different.
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Old 12-09-2011, 02:22 PM    (permalink
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Price had a major league contract from the time he was drafted so it might have been a little different.
It's a fake major league contract though. He can rip it up anytime he wants and go to arbitration instead, where he stand to make more than the 1-2 million a year he is scheduled for now.

But my point is I don't think this makes Friedman a god. I think he's almost lucked out that he has had two willing players to accept these deals. You don't think other teams have brought up situations like this before?
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It's a fake major league contract though. He can rip it up anytime he wants and go to arbitration instead, where he stand to make more than the 1-2 million a year he is scheduled for now.

But my point is I don't think this makes Friedman a god. I think he's almost lucked out that he has had two willing players to accept these deals. You don't think other teams have brought up situations like this before?
Well it's still a risk for the team though. If he blows out his arm they're on the hook for a decent % of their budget. Also Moore can end up sucking. It's a risk on both sides. I think some teams are a little scared to commit to young players this early.
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If it works out he looks like a genius, if Moore flames out or breaks down...not so much.
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Cahill to Arizona. I don't know who the A's are getting back but it's NOT Bauer or Skaggs. Parker perhaps?
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Cahill to Arizona. I don't know who the A's are getting back but it's NOT Bauer or Skaggs. Parker perhaps?
They are closing in on the wrong A's pitcher, Cahill is no good, but I guess he's better than the perpetually injured Jarrod Parker (jk fenikz, kinda)
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What the hell is wrong with Beane? I feel like he trades just to trade.
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Hope not Parker, he's got much better stuff than Cahill

of course, they are like 4 deep in their farm with top arms. Bauer, Skaggs, Parker, Bradley, chafin
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What the hell is wrong with Beane? I feel like he trades just to trade.
Ethier for Milton Bradley
Cargo for half a season of Matt Holliday

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Cahill was going to be arb eligible so I guess he had to go. What a ****** franchise.
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Cahill was going to be arb eligible so I guess he had to go. What a ****** franchise.
He signed an extension last April.

"The contract, which is worth $30.5MM in guaranteed money, according to ESPN.com's Buster Olney, buys out Cahill's last pre-arbitration season, his three arbitration years and at least one free agent year (Twitter link). The A's have two options worth $13MM and $13.5MM for 2016 and 2017, according to Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle (on Twitter)."

He was going to make 3.5 million this year. Yet you have 10 million locked up for the back of your bullpen on a **** team.
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Cahill isn't that good, so there's that...
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He signed an extension last April.

"The contract, which is worth $30.5MM in guaranteed money, according to ESPN.com's Buster Olney, buys out Cahill's last pre-arbitration season, his three arbitration years and at least one free agent year (Twitter link). The A's have two options worth $13MM and $13.5MM for 2016 and 2017, according to Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle (on Twitter)."

He was going to make 3.5 million this year. Yet you have 10 million locked up for the back of your bullpen on a **** team.
I did not know about said extension. I won't judge until I see who they get back but I also didn't see the need to deal him.
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Wow, deal is Cahill/Breslow for Parker/Cowgill and others

that's actually a good return for Oakland. Parker already has TJ surgery. His stuff is much, much better than Cahill's and Cowgill has a solid bat

don't really get this from the Dbacks perspective. Not like they needed more pitching. Their rotation is already filled with some good young arms and they have Skaggs/Bauer near MLB ready to
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Yeah a decent deal for the A's here. Parker has much more upside and will come cheap for the next 3 years.
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It's a lot more re-assuring for pitchers AFTER they have TJ surgery as well. Still wondering what else they'll get...I assume some RP prospect since they are losing Breslow

AL West is stacked with great pitching, jeez.
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ZOMG teh greatest deal evahhh.

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******* Kevin Towers. Can we include him in the deal and take back Dipoto?
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cus i've been such a big fan of dbacks trades recently :/

I don't like it, unless there are more concerns about Parker's arm we are getting ripped off
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No! The guy comes in and not even a month on the job he finds a way to trade Mathis and actually get something in return! For that alone the offseason was a resounding success
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I wish we had just promoted Dipoto to GM and told Towers he could stay on in a smaller role or quit
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Glad that didn't happen. Angels have been needing a young and smart GM who understands advanced statistics and bring in baseball people up top who understand them as well. I'm excited for what he'll be able to do here

also deal is officially done.

Cahill/Breslow

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Jarrod Parker/Cowgill/Ryan Cook
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