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Old 12-14-2011, 02:34 PM    (permalink
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Phillies signed Dontrelle Willis. No idea what he'll be doing although it sounds like they might use him as a lefty specialist out of the bullpen...
Sucking, and either being cut, traded or buried in the minors by June.
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Willis can be a good LOOGY.
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Old 12-15-2011, 09:44 AM    (permalink
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Sounds like maybe Toronto for Darvish?
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Old 12-15-2011, 09:47 AM    (permalink
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Some rumors said they posted a 60-75 mil bid for him. Nothing from a reliable source yet
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Yeah, I heard "sky high" was the neighborhood we were in yesterday. Seems like Toronto may have won, although I've heard Chicago might have put in a big bid as well. I'm a bit disappointed the Red Sox didn't bid, but that's a TON of money when you add in the actual contract for a guy without any experience in the MLB.
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Old 12-15-2011, 10:05 AM    (permalink
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That bid is crazy high if that's what it really is. The Japanese team has until Tuesday at 5 to accept the bid which is when we'll officially find out.
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:20 PM    (permalink
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3 years $31.5 million for Cuddyer from the Rockies. He's worse than Willingham and got a ton more.
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Some team is going to get a bargain in Carlos Beltran as it appears he doesn't have a major market.
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Some team is going to get a bargain in Carlos Beltran as it appears he doesn't have a major market.
I wouldn't mind him on the Yankees. Between DH and our short RF, I think we could keep him healthy and productive.

I'd only want to give him 2 years though.
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I wouldn't mind him on the Yankees. Between DH and our short RF, I think we could keep him healthy and productive.

I'd only want to give him 2 years though.
It would be a perfect move. You could rotate A-Rod, Beltran, and Montero at the DH spot.
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It would be a perfect move. You could rotate A-Rod, Beltran, and Montero at the DH spot.
It really does make a lot of sense. Beltran is only a real good fit for a handful of teams. Between his cost, age, and risk of injury, he is really only a good fit for a team that is expected to really compete. Preferably an AL team too.

It also could make Swisher expendable in a deal for a starter. But that would be risky.
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It really does make a lot of sense. Beltran is only a real good fit for a handful of teams. Between his cost, age, and risk of injury, he is really only a good fit for a team that is expected to really compete. Preferably an AL team too.

It also could make Swisher expendable in a deal for a starter. But that would be risky.
Yeah you'd be better off keeping Swisher for insurance becuase you never when Beltran's knee might go again.
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GOD DAMN IT! Al Alburquerque has gone the way of Joel Zumaya.
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GOD DAMN IT! Al Alburquerque has gone the way of Joel Zumaya.
He hurt his arm playing Guitar Hero and then re-hurt it by picking up heavy boxes because a wildfire was about to destroy his house?
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Will someone please just make a trade for Gio please? While you're at it, someone else trade for Andrew Bailey and Grant Balfour. I'm tired of waiting for this rebuild to happen. Let's just go in full steam, get a 100-loss season (or two) out of the way and let's move on.
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Will someone please just make a trade for Gio please? While you're at it, someone else trade for Andrew Bailey and Grant Balfour. I'm tired of waiting for this rebuild to happen. Let's just go in full steam, get a 100-loss season (or two) out of the way and let's move on.
Tigers will take Balfour. What will it require to get him?
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He hurt his arm playing Guitar Hero and then re-hurt it by picking up heavy boxes because a wildfire was about to destroy his house?
More like the 4th or 5th cause of a Zumaya injury. I lost track.

Regardless, I'd peg Al Al's chances of ever being the pitcher has was before his fluke concussion last year at about 15%.

It's a damn shame.
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Will someone please just make a trade for Gio please? While you're at it, someone else trade for Andrew Bailey and Grant Balfour. I'm tired of waiting for this rebuild to happen. Let's just go in full steam, get a 100-loss season (or two) out of the way and let's move on.
Apparently the asking price for Gonzalez is appropriately outrageous
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Will someone please just make a trade for Gio please? While you're at it, someone else trade for Andrew Bailey and Grant Balfour. I'm tired of waiting for this rebuild to happen. Let's just go in full steam, get a 100-loss season (or two) out of the way and let's move on.
If the Rangers lose out on Yu, then I would expect them to go hard after Gio/Bailey, Garza, Danks or Wade Davis.
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Apparently the asking price for Gonzalez is appropriately outrageous
The A's asked the Tigers for Jacob Turner (top 10 prospect), Nick Castellanos (top 40 prospect), and Drew Smyly (Detroit's minor league pitcher of the year).

That's just silly. It's nearly comparable to what the Tigers gave the Marlins for Cabrera and Dontrelle (just without 4 throw-in prospects).
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Matt Latos got traded to the Reds. Alonso is the only guy I saw so far. Seems like a good move for both parties. I wonder where Alonso will play.
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Damn... Sounds like a quality move for both teams
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Matt Latos got traded to the Reds. Alonso is the only guy I saw so far. Seems like a good move for both parties. I wonder where Alonso will play.
Not really a fan of the deal for the Pads. They don't need Alonso with Rizzo around, so it really depends on what else they get.
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Here are the full details.

Reds get:

Matt Latos


Padres get:

Yonder Alonso
Brad Boxberger
Yasmani Grandal
Edison Volquez


Wow.
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Looks like JRoll is back in Philly.
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