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Old 01-25-2012, 10:08 AM    (permalink
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Depends on how aggressive the Red Sox, Dodgers, Rangers, and Cubs get with their bidding. I can see $260 over 10 years.
Well the Red Sox wont...
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Votto probably could play corner OF.
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I don't think he will either, but $16m/yr off the books soon on Ortiz will help raise the price for the Dodgers or Cubs.
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Votto probably could play corner OF.
He wouldn't hold up well in Right at Fenway and they will not move Crawford over their seeing as he seems to be a creature of habit. Even if his speed and fielding ability would be a godsend at Fenway.
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He wouldn't hold up well in Right at Fenway and they will not move Crawford over their seeing as he seems to be a creature of habit. Even if his speed and fielding ability would be a godsend at Fenway.
Haha I hate Crawford. I'm a creature of habit so in addition to not hitting I'll play the smallest corner OF spot in the majors where my speed (only true asset) is being wasted.
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He doesn't have the arm to play RF anyways
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I think Votto is destined for the Dodgers. He can be the lefty behind Kemp since Loney only got a 1 year deal.
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He doesn't have the arm to play RF anyways
Crawford or Votto...

Never mind I answered the question for myself... Both.
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San Francisco and Lincecum have reached a deal. 2 years $40.5 million

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/74...-year-40m-deal
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Forgive my ignorance, but does Detroit forfeit its first round draft pick to Milwaukee for signing Prince? I thought the new CBA made some changes with regard to free agent loss compensation ...
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Forgive my ignorance, but does Detroit forfeit its first round draft pick to Milwaukee for signing Prince? I thought the new CBA made some changes with regard to free agent loss compensation ...
Yes it does. It's going to take me some time to get used to all the new rules in this CBA though.
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I can't wait to watch Nick Blackburn and Carl Pavano flail around helplessly against Detroit's middle of the lineup. It's going to be awesome.
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Yes it does. It's going to take me some time to get used to all the new rules in this CBA though.
What changed about compensation then? I swear I read something had changed, and because the CBA was agreed to after Papelbon had signed with Philly, the compensation would remain as it was prior to the CBA for that case.

Am I making this up?
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They changed that only like the top 5 FA cost the signing team a draft pick... or something like that. The rest just get a compensatory pick
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Actually just saw this

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/0...aft-picks.html
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OK, that makes much more sense. There's only a handful of big ticket free agents that should require compensation. The system is much better now.
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There are only Type A FA's now.
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I gotta applaud the Tigers for signing Prince. Shows real aggression and I respect that. I don't think the contract is bad comparatively speaking, but I just think they bid against themselves.
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This may have been addressed, but what happens when VMart comes back? How does this move impact his standing on the team?
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They are saying that VMart will DH with Prince at 1st and Cabrera at 3rd...but I would trade him as soon as he's healthy and can pass a physical. He was a below average catcher even before the knee thing, I love his bat but we should eat some salary and dump him to fill our other needs.
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lol I meant CC but yea
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We are getting just a sandwich pick for Reyes?
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Red Sox made offer to Edwin Jackson. The two sides are currently in talks.
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They are saying that VMart will DH with Prince at 1st and Cabrera at 3rd...but I would trade him as soon as he's healthy and can pass a physical. He was a below average catcher even before the knee thing, I love his bat but we should eat some salary and dump him to fill our other needs.
I agree with the notion of dealing VMart, but that's a really tough sell job in the Tigers' clubhouse, IMO. Leyland LOVES Victor and he's a real leader there. Maybe a year of him being away from the clubhouse will temper those feelings a bit, but I wouldn't bet on a trade of Victor when healthy at this juncture.
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Originally Posted by Xiomera View Post
I agree with the notion of dealing VMart, but that's a really tough sell job in the Tigers' clubhouse, IMO. Leyland LOVES Victor and he's a real leader there. Maybe a year of him being away from the clubhouse will temper those feelings a bit, but I wouldn't bet on a trade of Victor when healthy at this juncture.
Give Cabrera a bottle of Petron and have "hooker day" in spring training '13 and all would be forgiven.
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