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Old 03-05-2010, 05:54 PM    (permalink
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That would be pretty ******** to go TO. He isn't good anymore. At all.
I still disagree with people on this. He hasn't had anybody who could get him the ball the last two years.

His last year in Dallas he still caught 10 touchdowns and had over 1000 yards receiving with 439058304985 year old Brad Johnson throwing to him for half the season.

He still averaged 15 ypc the past two seasons, too which is a pretty ******* high number for somebody who is supposed to be slowing down.

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I am sorry, but they either needed to get a 1st from the Ravens or a 2nd and 4th from them. Maybe not both this year, but to get a 3rd and 4th and then have to give up a 5th and one of the best WR in the league, who is in the prime of his career, not good. Great deal for the Ravens, I wouldn't be shocked if they still drafted a WR in the 1st anyway.
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I am sorry, but they either needed to get a 1st from the Ravens or a 2nd and 4th from them. Maybe not both this year, but to get a 3rd and 4th and then have to give up a 5th and one of the best WR in the league, who is in the prime of his career, not good. Great deal for the Ravens, I wouldn't be shocked if they still drafted a WR in the 1st anyway.
He's an injury prone 30 year old that needed an extension, his value was far from its peak.
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sir you clearly havent watched boldin in 3 years
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And what did the Cowboys give up for Roy Williams again compared to this? I know Roy is younger and doesn’t have the injury concerns of Boldin but still...
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And what did the Cowboys give up for Roy Williams again compared to this? I know Roy is younger and doesn’t have the injury concerns of Boldin but still...
The Cowboys massively overpaid, it's not what the market value for a receiver is.
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PFW is reporting that the Ravens won't go for Walter now that they have Boldin.
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PFW is reporting that the Ravens won't go for Walter now that they have Boldin.
That would be a bitchin' recieving corps though. Draft Gresham with their first and Flacco is jizzing in his pants.
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And what did the Cowboys give up for Roy Williams again compared to this? I know Roy is younger and doesn’t have the injury concerns of Boldin but still...
You can't use Jerry Jones' stupidity as a correlation for if another trade was good or bad. If jerry wants a guy he'll massively overpay, especially if there is money under the cap to do it. We probably could of gotten Roy for a 6th round pick had we waited another year.
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He's an injury prone 30 year old that needed an extension, his value was far from its peak.
It was worth way more then they got. and You clearly HAVEN"T watched him the last 3 years.
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yes me, the cardinals fan, 1 of 3 in the world, is the one who hasn't watched him
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Damn. Really wanted him on the Patriots. Congrats Baltimore, seems like you guys have been trying to get him for like forever.
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Good fit for the Ravens, because they are trying to contend now. Why so upset Chiefs fans? KC is a young team, if they signed a 30 year old to 30 mill extension, that is just going to end up depriving them of a core piece down the line. Boldin might have been easily had, but was not necessarily the right direction for the franchise.
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Good fit for the Ravens, because they are trying to contend now. Why so upset Chiefs fans? KC is a young team, if they signed a 30 year old to 30 mill extension, that is just going to end up depriving them of a core piece down the line. Boldin might have been easily had, but was not necessarily the right direction for the franchise.
because our WR's suck that's why.Boldin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chiefs WR's
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Give up a 3rd and 4th round pick for a pro bowl WR... great deal. If they can add youth to the defense they might be one of the favorites next year
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It was worth way more then they got. and You clearly HAVEN"T watched him the last 3 years.
How so? Do you think the Cardinals were turning down better offers?

In the end the team decided that a 3 and 4th were more valuable to the team than one year of Boldin. I love Boldin but for a team that has a promising replacement in Doucet and wants to transition to more of a running game it was the right time to trade him. This was the best value that we could get.

There was no way he was resigning next year and franchising him would have been ugly and his value would have been even less (especially with the possibility of it being a lockout season).
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How so? Do you think the Cardinals were turning down better offers?

In the end the team decided that a 3 and 4th were more valuable to the team than one year of Boldin. I love Boldin but for a team that has a promising replacement in Doucet and wants to transition to more of a running game it was the right time to trade him. This was the best value that we could get.

There was no way he was resigning next year and franchising him would have been ugly and his value would have been even less (especially with the possibility of it being a lockout season).
You think Doucet will be the #2 over Breaston?
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Good fit for the Ravens, because they are trying to contend now. Why so upset Chiefs fans? KC is a young team, if they signed a 30 year old to 30 mill extension, that is just going to end up depriving them of a core piece down the line. Boldin might have been easily had, but was not necessarily the right direction for the franchise.
I agree with you and I've been saying it some today. I'd rather get our picks and fix some other areas than give up two picks + a huge deal to Boldin. I really wanted Walter, but he just re-signed.

All said, I love Boldin and it would have been great to see him in KC red, but I'm not all that broken up over it.
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You think Doucet will be the #2 over Breaston?

I think Doucet works better on the outside (his game is pretty much Boldin-lite) and I would like to see them keep Breaston in the slot were he has been so effective. When Boldin missed games this was the general setup, but our WRs move around alot and we tend to go 3 wide most of the time so they will both see plenty of action.
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Lance Long,Bobby Wade,Terrance Copper and Quinten Lawrence.

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Good luck Matt Cassel.
Yea, it's impossible for the chiefs to upgrade their receiving situation from here on out. You guys are basically screwed.
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Did we trade Bowe? Did Chambers sign somewhere else?
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I think Doucet works better on the outside (his game is pretty much Boldin-lite) and I would like to see them keep Breaston in the slot were he has been so effective. When Boldin missed games this was the general setup, but our WRs move around alot and we tend to go 3 wide most of the time so they will both see plenty of action.
i disagree, i feel like Boldin was always better in the slot and I have the same opinion with Doucet. Breaston is such a great route runner and is so good on deep ins/outs I like to keep him on the outside
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Did we trade Bowe? Did Chambers sign somewhere else?
Did Bowe learn how to catch?

Geoff Hobson, of Bengals.com, reports the Cincinnati Bengals have shown interest in unrestricted free-agent WR Chris Chambers (Chiefs)
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