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Tommie Harris doesn't even drink. He's too anal-retentive holy-rollerish for that. We've had no problems with Cutler partying the night before a game since he's come to the Bears. I've never heard any concerns like that about Peppers. Your imagination is weird if you can imagine that.

As for the guaranteed money, so what? It's frontloaded. Is anyone really concerned that Peppers is going to be bad over the next three years or so?
Point was Tommie Harris has been known to take plays off occasionaly as has Peppers atleast in the eyes of many. And all 3 are kind of diva, "look at me" type players... Poor word choice on my part in the previous point. I still remember Peppers 2.5 sack 38 tackle performance in 2007.

Your saying front loaded like 20 million dollars this season isn't a big deal. People are going to disagree. Some think it was a great signing, some don't. I'm on the side that think the Bears will regret it in the end. Still, it's a guy who will get them excited I suppose.
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I doubt we trade Olsen.

Look at it that way: If the coaching staff fails, the coaches gonna be canned anyways. You want to give up on Olsen when after a year he could be very very useful again?

I could see Martz utilize him. Olsen is a little more polished receiving wise than VD was when Martz was in SF. Also with Manumaleuna blocking, he can now use Olsen with a little less pressure.

The numbers are misleading. Yes he had 8 TDs, but they threw at him like a million times in the redzone.

As of now, Greg is an above average TE with potential, but not as great as some make it out to be. Cutler's favorite target was Aro, not really Greg. He spreaded it around pretty good too.

Peppers im very iffy about. But apparently they had the same concerns with Simeon Rice before he got to Tampa and Marinelli seems to be at least a good motivator for the DL being an ex marine and all.
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I doubt we trade Olsen.

Look at it that way: If the coaching staff fails, the coaches gonna be canned anyways. You want to give up on Olsen when after a year he could be very very useful again?

I could see Martz utilize him. Olsen is a little more polished receiving wise than VD was when Martz was in SF. Also with Manumaleuna blocking, he can now use Olsen with a little less pressure.

The numbers are misleading. Yes he had 8 TDs, but they threw at him like a million times in the redzone.

As of now, Greg is an above average TE with potential, but not as great as some make it out to be. Cutler's favorite target was Aro, not really Greg. He spreaded it around pretty good too.

Peppers im very iffy about. But apparently they had the same concerns with Simeon Rice before he got to Tampa and Marinelli seems to be at least a good motivator for the DL being an ex marine and all.
I don't really see how bold 1 connects with bold 2
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They threw at him in the redzone tons cause:

a. that was the playcall where he was the main target, being a redzone target doesnt necessarily mean he is his favorite target.
b. Aro didnt play till like week 9


When aro was in the game you kinda got the feeling Cutler was throwing at him a lot, forcing it sometimes. never got the feeling when he wasnt in the game, it felt he was spreading it when Aro wasnt starting
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They threw at him in the redzone tons cause:

a. that was the playcall where he was the main target, being a redzone target doesnt necessarily mean he is his favorite target.
b. Aro didnt play till like week 9


When aro was in the game you kinda got the feeling Cutler was throwing at him a lot, forcing it sometimes. never got the feeling when he wasnt in the game, it felt he was spreading it when Aro wasnt starting
oh okay I see. Shame though I really thought Olson would be good after he got drafted..
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I thought Peppers wanted to play OLB in a 3/4 defense. Oh well, $20M in 1 year speaks louder, I guess.
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Screaming in Pep's face won't motivate him. Peppers is a player you're going to love 75% of the time, curse out 15% of the time and be astounded by 10% of the time.

He's a great addition to any defense and the whole "oh he takes plays off bbbbb-but" is a load of crap, sometimes he's less effective and tires, but if the team gives him rest now and then and allows him to be unleashed on defenses and not confined with assignments he'll do a lot of damage.
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I'm not happy he went to the Bears because he makes their defense better. But their defense wont win them games like it did a few years ago. They wont be a threat until Cutler gets some help at WR and OL (I'm hoping Martz doesn't work magic - I don't think he can with the tools he has).
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Who is Peterson's backup now? The Vikes would be stupid to run him into the ground. The way he plays he'll have a short career unless they cap him around 20 carries a game.
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I'm not happy he went to the Bears because he makes their defense better. But their defense wont win them games like it did a few years ago. They wont be a threat until Cutler gets some help at WR and OL (I'm hoping Martz doesn't work magic - I don't think he can with the tools he has).
Maybe not, but if you're going into the fourth qtr and you need a turn over or a sack to end a drive, Peppers is the guy you want leading the charge.
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also, our WRs dont look as bad as people make it out to be. The OL on the other hand is just bad
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no but seriously, what would happen if we draft another WR? add one of those rather average WRs in the FA?

unless we give up some First rounder next year, we cant get anything that is better than what we have right nwo
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Antonio Bryant I would say is above average, seeing Derrick Mason play last year had me thinking he has another solid year in him and is a great team guy. Not sure if the Ravens are going to resign him yet.
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Antonio Bryant I would say is above average, seeing Derrick Mason play last year had me thinking he has another solid year in him and is a great team guy. Not sure if the Ravens are going to resign him yet.
the thing is: do you rather give it to someone above average that is a hundred years old or let your young talented WRs start get experience and a bond with the QB?

Right now we have Hester, Aro, Bennett, Knox and Iglesias.

Aro should get to start next season, Bennett and Knox played quite nicely, and i doubt they just want to give up on iglesias
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I did watch a game or 2 of Aro and I like his game. Can he be a #1 if so you guys should be fine because all the other recievers are solid but you just NEED a go to guy. Bring in Mason have him be an influence on the younger guys and him and Cutler would be on the same page from day 1 IMO.
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Mason could still be a good player, if he wants to play, if he's not hungry, he'll blow.
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The idea of Derrick Mason being a "go to guy" at this stage in his career is comical. The whole concept of a #1 receiver is overrated anyway.
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