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Old 03-06-2010, 08:18 PM    (permalink
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I still don't understand how a player can be so good one season and be **** the next, it doesn't make sense. Especially a player like Rhodes who is in his prime. At first glance, this looks like a very good deal from the Cardinals perspective as a 4th and a 7th likely won't get you anything better then what Rhodes is now. I'm still confused though how his value dropped so much.

Also, why weren't the Seahawks in on this? I'd assume hes at least better then Babineaux as a safety, and he'd play Strong Safety allowing Grant to move to Free Safety so it would be like upgrading two positions.
It does make sense. Not for all players but ego plays a role, he had a big year and I guess thought he is good enough to slack and it was exposed. Alot like the shoulder throwing tackles...
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I don't really like this at all. Kerry Rhodes wasn't exactly the cornerstone of the defense, but we really have no other players to fill that position. I think it's a virtual lock at this point that the jets are targeting a rangey cover safety in the draft. A trade up for someone like earl thomas wouldn't suprise me at all given the jets draft history the past few years.
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It does make sense. Not for all players but ego plays a role, he had a big year and I guess thought he is good enough to slack and it was exposed. Alot like the shoulder throwing tackles...
Speaking of ego though, wouldn't being traded for a 4th round and 7th round pick be a huge hit to the ego and give him a wake up call? Actually, that makes a lot of sense, as you hear the term "change of scenery" thrown around a lot and often thats exactly what a player needs.
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Rhodes was hyped like crazy for his play in previous seasons, and certainly didn't live up to it. Ryan was supposed to solidify him and instead the hype and modeling got to his head. His constant twittering is an example - once he stopped being Mr. Media/Attention he played better. I have no doubt he can bounce back, but i'm not sure it would have happened with the Jets.

The fact that he was benched says a lot, although he played a heck of a lot better afterwards. His weak shoulder tackles were a joke. He had no interest in tackling, just being a ballhawk and blitzing, and he didn't even ballhawk well.

I am sad to see him go, as he was a great player for us when he was underrated trying to get his respect as a late round pick. Hate how things went south, but this may be for the best for both. Filling the void left in the wake is the tough spot. Will be interesting to follow because as of now we have no coverage saftey that i know of.
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He was one of the best up and coming safeties in the league, then he got a massive contract and started to suck.

He can be great if he wants to be.
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Love this deal for Arizona.
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Great deal for the Cardinals

Rhodes is still young and only cost a 4th. Chances of getting a player close to as good with that pick is very low. It is also a little cheaper than Rolle.

The only concern is whether his down year was due to his ego being too big and thinking he didn't have to practice hard or because he just signed a big contract and saw no incentive to do so.

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As a Jets fan who's seen all of Rhodes game, he is like the Jackl and Hyde of safeties in football.

If it is the 2006-2007 Kerry Rhodes, then its a steal for the Cards. He was an absolute ballhawk, would wrap up his tackles, lead his team, make some crazy interceptions(Especially in 2007).

However if its the 2008-2009 one, he will piss Cards fans off. He plays as if he is owed something and that the coaches should be greatful to have someone like him on a team. He cares more about his modeling career over these past 2 years(Even has a youtube channel called "KerryHollywoodRhodes". Told Braylon Edwards that when coming to the Jets, that it is a much easier place to be then when with Mangini. When benched, he called out the coaches and threw a hissy fit and wanted out of the Jets ASAP. Even during the playoff run, he had a terrible attitude and when the season ended vs IND, he woulden't dismiss as to if he wanted to stay as a Jet.

He whiffed upon tackles(Was it 2 or 3 whiffed tackles he had on Wes Welker last year), looked lost in coverage(Cost us a game vs the Jags when he ****** up a 4th down defensive coverage play as Leonard called on Kerry to come and help him cover Mike Thomas who burned us on that eventual MJD lie down drive) and most of his picks came vs Jake Delhomme. He also likes to prance around during each big play, and he had the audacity to showboat after nailing Rivers for a fumble in a playoff game WHILE THE BALL WAS STILL LOOSE.

Overall he is a bad attitude and doesn't give 2 shits about football. His play decreased once he got his contract, big shocker. Maybe being out of town is gonna be a blessing for Kerry but if the Cardinals get the 2008-2009 Rhodes who was a dog then fans will want him gone ASAP. I have never been so dissapointed in someone so much in my life like with Rhodes. Its like once Revis got so good, Rhodes got jealous and felt insulted that he wasn't the top defensive guy anymore on the team.

I hope Kerry does well but his attitude left a very bad taste in my mouth. Hate those prima donna type of attitudes.
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good riddance. our DBs need to be quality tacklers since they are always on islands and he was the opposite of that.
Yet you just traded for Antonio Cromartie.


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Rhodes and Wilson. Safe to say the Cards have the tallest and biggest starting safety tandum in the NFL.
I thought this too when I first heard the trade. It's like having 2 extra linebackers back there.....probably cover just as well too, lol

Seriously though, not a bad move. They didn't give up all that much I don't think.
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This is an Excellent trade for the Cardinals.
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Dumb deal for us. Cardinals get a steal...upgrade from Rolle and Wilson/Rhodes might be the best big safety duo in the league now...
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Great deal for the Cardinals

Rhodes is still young and only cost a 4th. Chances of getting a player close to as good with that pick is very low. It is also a little cheaper than Rolle.

The only concern is whether his down year was due to his ego being too big and thinking he didn't have to practice hard or because he just signed a big contract and saw no incentive to do so.
he is about 30+ mil cheaper, Jets have to pay him the guaranteed money, Cardinals will pay him 13 mil over the next 4 years + roster bonuses
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The Thecollegedropout hits every nail on the head about Kerry Rhodes
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Hooray! What a great class to need a Safety.
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I don't really like this at all. Kerry Rhodes wasn't exactly the cornerstone of the defense, but we really have no other players to fill that position. I think it's a virtual lock at this point that the jets are targeting a rangey cover safety in the draft. A trade up for someone like earl thomas wouldn't suprise me at all given the jets draft history the past few years.
I've been saying for the whole year that the Jets and Rex Ryan would drool over Taylor Mays. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they moved for him were he still there past the top 15.
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It was a steal. a top 10- FS for a 4th and 7th. STEAl. Rhodes doesnt have to be the guy in the secondary since they have DRC and the best safety in the game: Wilson.

I ma shocked how the Chiefs wouldnt give up their 3rd and say hi Jets want our third for rhodes?

I like this move a lot.
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Yet you just traded for Antonio Cromartie.


Oh the irony.
Except for, oh you know, the tiny detail of their difference in positions. If my CB, like Cro, can play bump and run coverage with the best receivers, than I consider tackling just a bonus. He, coupled with Revis, will allow Ryan and Pettine to blitz even more than they already do (most in the league).

However, my safety, especially a safety in a Rex Ryan defense sure as hell better like to tackle, want to tackle and be good at it. Carrie Rhodes doesn't.

Carrie just flat out didn't fit in our system. Once he got his big contract, he cared more about his acting and modeling careers than his football one. Him and Revis were best friends their first few years; always hanging out, constantly studying and watchin film together, but after his big payday, Revis and the rest were extremely annoyed and aggravated at his poor work ethic.

Basically an addition by subtraction for the jets. If he wants to, he can be a good safety; I think that'll last for at most, half a season. He's extremely prideful and will probably try to shut everyone up. My opinion?? I could care less. He's no longer a jet, so how he plays has no baring on my team, unless we meet in the SB.
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It was a steal. a top 10- FS for a 4th and 7th.
If he plays like he did this past season then they didn't even get a top 30 safety. The guy was benched in favor of Eric Smith for a reason.

The Jets only got a 4th and 7th because nobody wanted him.
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Guys....if he couldn't play for Rex...what does that tell you?


Think about it.


Rhodes was a great player when he cared about his career. But he went hollywood and now he's a JAG at best. If he ever gets his head right, he can be good again, but if Rex can't spark a fire in you...who can?

He played in NY, for Rex Ryan. He had it all. And he blew it.
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If he plays like he did this past season then they didn't even get a top 30 safety. The guy was benched in favor of Eric Smith for a reason.

The Jets only got a 4th and 7th because nobody wanted him.
people seem to forget that he regained his started spot and ended the season with 3 picks and 16 pass def. which was 2 less than ed reed, all we need is a cover safety and thats what he is

and at 4/13 he is cheap, especially since we could easily cut ties with him after every year because the Jets owe him the guaranteed money not us
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wtf are the jets doing, if they let little Leon go, they're crazy.
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Watch the Jets sign Brodney Pool... The Browns Jets connection.
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people seem to forget that he regained his started spot and ended the season with 3 picks and 16 pass def. which was 2 less than ed reed, all we need is a cover safety and thats what he is

and at 4/13 he is cheap, especially since we could easily cut ties with him after every year because the Jets owe him the guaranteed money not us
2 of those picks I think came on Jake Delhomme................And Ed Reed missed a few games with an injury.

Eric Smith played arguably better than Rhodes did last year. Wasn't a major difference between the 2 of them in there. Only concern for Smith was he was too aggressive at times.

If its the Rhodes of the past 2 years, he is gonna see Vernon Davis and John Carlson take shits upon him twice a year.
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actually he will be playing CF alot, Wilson covers TEs man to man
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