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Old 03-07-2010, 03:54 AM    (permalink
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Probably one of my favorite signings this offseason. Best of luck Aaron.
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Great move by the Jaguars.
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Love that signing. They should go for Mays in the draft and their D will beast.
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As a lions fan all I can say is ******* ******** ************* jaguar ***** Kampman should have ******* gone to the ******* lions bunch of ************* ********!! ****!
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I like this move a lot. As long as he can get healthy I think this is a great move and will help close some of the gap in the division. Watch out Payton ;)
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What ever happened to Derrick Harvey and Quentin Groves?
2 More recent examples of why the draft is much more of a crapshoot then free agency.
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Sick signing...Kampman's still underrated.
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Maybe it's hindsight, but when the Pack switched to a 3-4 I always felt they should have shopped him pretty hard last year. I can only imagine what type of offers they would have gotten which could have gone towards adding more players for the 3-4 defense.


I say it could be hindsight because you never know if he'd suck completely in a new defense, or that he'd get hurt, but I know he wasn't too happy about the change, and I'd like to think they could of brought in at least a 3rd rounder at that point for him.
He tore is ACL midseason. It would have been pretty hard to get any value for him after that.
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He tore is ACL midseason. It would have been pretty hard to get any value for him after that.
You know you guys switched to a 3-4 before he tore his ACL right? That was the point I was trying to make, to shop him before that season even started since you were changing to a new defense that he obviously wasn't very happy about. Of course your not going to get anything after the injury, but during that off-season I think you could of at least got a mid round pick instead of nothing.
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What ever happened to Derrick Harvey and Quentin Groves?

Groves is just bad... and Harvey is not the pass rusher they envisioned when drafting him.
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He tore is ACL midseason. It would have been pretty hard to get any value for him after that.
He tore it after the trade deadline. Either way we're going to get a descent compensary pick if his contract is anywhere near what the Lions gave KVB.

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You know you guys switched to a 3-4 before he tore his ACL right? That was the point I was trying to make, to shop him before that season even started since you were changing to a new defense that he obviously wasn't very happy about. Of course your not going to get anything after the injury, but during that off-season I think you could of at least got a mid round pick instead of nothing.
We had nobody else to start in his place so it was a calculated risk. If it worked like it did for Greg Ellis and the Cowboys this wouldn't have been an issue.
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Awesome signing. I really like the signing and like Kampman as a player.
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Jags are going to be a force to be reckoned with if Kampman works out. They look like a pretty solid team outside of QB and saftey. They had a monster draft this past year IMO, maybe the best in the NFL.
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Good signing not only b/c Kampman is an elite pass rusher, but because DE isn't as immediate of a need now. This signing keeps their optinos open so they can truly take the BPA. I think Pierre-Paul, Derrick Morgan, Dan Williams, Earl Thomas, Joe Haden, and even Dez Bryant would all be good options at #10, and should be available.
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We had nobody else to start in his place so it was a calculated risk. If it worked like it did for Greg Ellis and the Cowboys this wouldn't have been an issue.
Very much true. That's why I said it could all just be in hindsight, though Kampman would of netted alot more then Ellis ever would have(and I also think Ellis was hurt before we switched to the 3-4).


Like you said though, a compensation pick could make up for it, I just kinda felt he would of been a good bargaining piece to add picks when your trying to find pieces to a new defense.



Still sucks Groves and Harvey haven't been what were expected, Harvey had that long ass holdout too asking for all that money. I remember everyone thought they did a great job that year.
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We had nobody else to start in his place so it was a calculated risk. If it worked like it did for Greg Ellis and the Cowboys this wouldn't have been an issue.
Except they were two completely different scenarios. Ellis was an aging defensive end, that was pretty average for us. The change made him a very good player for us. Kampman was already a very good player, he most likely was not gonna improve his production in the new defense. We wouldn't have gotten anything for Ellis pre 3-4, but Kampman did have a lot of value as a 4-3 DE.
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Very much true. That's why I said it could all just be in hindsight, though Kampman would of netted alot more then Ellis ever would have(and I also think Ellis was hurt before we switched to the 3-4).

Like you said though, a compensation pick could make up for it, I just kinda felt he would of been a good bargaining piece to add picks when your trying to find pieces to a new defense.

Still sucks Groves and Harvey haven't been what were expected, Harvey had that long ass holdout too asking for all that money. I remember everyone thought they did a great job that year.
It probably would've been easier to move him if we knew what we had in Matthews earlier in the season. Also I think the Packers respected Kampman enough not to trade him midseason and then not to tag and trade him after the season. Kampman is the epitome of what a professional sports player should be.


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Except they were two completely different scenarios. Ellis was an aging defensive end, that was pretty average for us. The change made him a very good player for us. Kampman was already a very good player, he most likely was not gonna improve his production in the new defense. We wouldn't have gotten anything for Ellis pre 3-4, but Kampman did have a lot of value as a 4-3 DE.
I was talking about how Ellis played well in his transition compared to Kampman. Nothing to do with value.

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I read somewhere that Kampman will play RDE and Derrick Harvey will play LDE. If they manage to resign Reggie Hayward (which doesn't look a whole lot likely - we could use all the pass rush we can get but it's easier to part ways with him now) Reggie would compete with Harvey for LDE, and Quentin Groves I'm guessing would back up at RDE. Groves was a disappointment this past year.

Other stuff I've read says that the Jaguars will probably pursue MLBs, DTs, and OL backups. I wonder if they'll go after safeties like Atogwe and Pool, though. The fact that safety is such a need and they don't want to look for one means that 1) they like Reggie Nelson more than they should or 2) they want one in the draft.
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