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Old 03-17-2010, 09:49 AM    (permalink
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i'll jump in the homerism. there's no way aaron rodgers puts up the numbers he did against the lions this year. kvb, corey williams, and possibly suh will flatten him. we'll actually be able to drop people back into coverage and generate a pass rush without blitzing 60% of the time. plus we aren't starting will james anymore. so subtract a good 400 yards and 4 touchdowns from your totals from last season, bump up the sacks by a couple, and throw in a couple interceptions.
I don't know about sacks and int's, the Packers are no bums. But he won't be able to pad his stats quite as much
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true but if said that, then it wouldn't be homerism.
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In one miraculous season....Carson Palmer 2010 MVP but even before that he takes down Joey Chesnut....

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In one miraculous season....Carson Palmer 2010 MVP but even before that he takes down Joey Chesnut....

look at that man shoving that gigantic weiner down his throat. I bet he loves all the creamy sauce he'll probably get it all over his face but whatever. Look at his ferocious eyes as he's about to insert the weiner... hot.
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Don't you have to win a playoff game before you're "the best QB in the NFL"?
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Don't you have to win a playoff game before you're "the best QB in the NFL"?

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i'll jump in the homerism. there's no way aaron rodgers puts up the numbers he did against the lions this year. kvb, corey williams, and possibly suh will flatten him. we'll actually be able to drop people back into coverage and generate a pass rush without blitzing 60% of the time. plus we aren't starting will james anymore. so subtract a good 400 yards and 4 touchdowns from your totals from last season, bump up the sacks by a couple, and throw in a couple interceptions.
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Legend_Killer, meet Peyton.
Lol, that's what I was going to say. He was crowned best QB in the NFL when his only signature win was a comeback on Monday Night Football against Tampa Bay.
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I still have some blind faith in Carson Palmer.
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I still have some blind faith in Carson Palmer.
seconded. He's a much better QB than he's shown the past seasons.
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Carson Palmer is a great passer but I don't think he'll ever reach the MVP type potential. He'll always be a tier below in my book.
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Peyton Mannin = MVP 2010

Aaron Rodgers is fighting for offensive player of the year. The media loves Manning peter he can do no wrong.
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Peyton Mannin = MVP 2010

Aaron Rodgers is fighting for offensive player of the year. The media loves Manning peter he can do no wrong.
Although this is partially true, Rodgers has outperformed Manning in just about every category but wins the last two years.
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Lol, that's what I was going to say. He was crowned best QB in the NFL when his only signature win was a comeback on Monday Night Football against Tampa Bay.
...Really? Because my recollection goes that there was no real consensus until January of 2007, that got wiped away by January of 2008, and made a quick comeback in early September of 2008. I was involved in FAR too many debates on the subject to be convinced that Manning was the consensus best QB in the NFL since 2003, or even 2004.
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...Really? Because my recollection goes that there was no real consensus until January of 2007, that got wiped away by January of 2008, and made a quick comeback in early September of 2008. I was involved in FAR too many debates on the subject to be convinced that Manning was the consensus best QB in the NFL since 2003, or even 2004.
Peyton wasn't in the best QB in the NFL discussion before he won the SB you say? Yes he was! Before he won his damn ring we were just assuming he was going to be the next Dan Marino.
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Attention all homers: Please come by and hype your QB! Please come by and hype your QB. Thank you!
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If you didn't catch all of the Packers games in 2009, you missed the [second]coming out party of one of the greatest quarterbacks in the NFL right now: Aaron Rodgers.

This cat seemed to hit his stride in the 2009 season in a huge way. He led the league in completions over 40 yards despite being sacked 50 times and ended the season at a remarkable 30:7 TD/INT ratio and 4,434 passing yards.

Check out his stats:

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...gAa00/gamelog/

Look at the explosion in wins in the second half of his second year starting in the league. If this is a portent of things to come, I'm calling it right now: Aaron Rodgers will be most valuable player of the year next year and could challenge Peyton Manning for "best quarterback in the NFL" title.
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Peyton wasn't in the best QB in the NFL discussion before he won the SB you say? Yes he was! Before he won his damn ring we were just assuming he was going to be the next Dan Marino.
Did you read consensus as discussion or something? Because his post is pretty much entirely true. For like 5 years it was ALWAYS Manning and Brady as 1a and 1b. Since Brady's knee injury its been Peyton 1 and then a bunch of other people like Rivers, Brees, Brady and Rodgers in behind him since Brady has come back recovering from his injury. Manning has really only been considered the general consensus best QB in the league since Brady got injured, like he was saying.
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Seriously though Rodgers will be an MVP contender next season. In order in terms of likelihood I'm gonna say:

Peyton Manning
Chris Johnson
Philip Rivers
Tom Brady(I think he rebounds this year)
Aaron Rodgers

And then a slew of other guys after this top tier.
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The first part may be true, but the second part is not the cause.

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Although this is partially true, Rodgers has outperformed Manning in just about every category but wins the last two years.
Give Manning a competent running game and that probably isn't the case. Don't get me wrong, I think Rodgers has what it takes to be a great (which would be incredible luck for your franchise), but the stats of the two players alone don't tell the story in this case.
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He rebounded last year, that was pretty much Tom Brady's career average year.
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No chance Chris Johnson gets MVP next season. Back to back 2000 yard seasons? That would kill a man.
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From the 24th pick in his draft class to MVP, not bad. They've got to protect him better though, if GB fixes their o-line they can get back with Team Favre & contest for the division title.

Getting even with the Vikes is only p/o the vengeance though, it's the 9ers' noses Northern California native & Cal Golden Bear Rodgers is going to rub in it, they & their moron GM Terry Donahue passed on him for Smith b/c Smith was a "better team leader," & gave him $24M guaranteed. Better team leader, my ass.....

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