Scotts New Mock

[mikehop05]

Originally Posted by bhaarat316

come on he had one good season,

he also was a converted WR, saying he will be a bad end is just ridiculous

[Mr. Stiller]

Originally Posted by bhaarat316

come on he had one good season,

In the SEC...

Battled... Joe Thomas, Sam Baker, Arron Sears. Had 2+ Sacks in most games, even the toughest SEC Games.

Last season in limited occasions still had 36 Tackles 12 TFLS, and 4 sacks.

I'd say he knows how to get in the backfield. He possesses amazing athleticism, great size, power. He's raw.

46 Tackles, 24 TFLS for -106yds, 15 sacks, 4 PD, 1FF and 12 Hurries.

Alabama, Auburn, Miss, Tennessee(3 against Arron Sears), 1 against LSU, 3 against Wisconsin (3 against Joe Thomas)...

He started off slow, but once he got in the game, he's a monster.

[b316]

He is a gifted athlete, no doubt, may be he can prove me wrong, I still would like to get him or bowie

He was going to be a WR at one point, maybe he still can like Peppers

[Mr. Stiller]

Originally Posted by bhaarat316

He is a gifted athlete, no doubt, may be he can prove me wrong, I still would like to get him or bowie

He was going to be a WR at one point, maybe he still can like Peppers

I think If he drops about 10-15 lbs, and works a bit, he'll be dominant if not more than Merriman. He's got elite speed for his size, and being the fact he was a WR, has the ability to drop in coverage.

If Haggans can do it. Anderson can only make us look better.

[b316]

I think he is fine look at some pictures he doesnt look like he needs to drop lbs. but if it help his speed improve sure im for it

As long he he doesnt end up look lanky like Adams,

[b316]

something funny, i was looking at the DE rankings and it showed Moses as a first rd pick i dont think scott changed it, since Moses ends up falling into the third and bottom second in most drafts.

What happened to Moses i remeber a lot of people wanted to draft him in Jan.

[Mr. Stiller]

Originally Posted by bhaarat316

I think he is fine look at some pictures he doesnt look like he needs to drop lbs. but if it help his speed improve sure im for it

As long he he doesnt end up look lanky like Adams,

Lanky?

It's not necesarily lanky, it's muscle. Even if he's thin, with long arms, that might be better, because it'd be hard to keep olineman out of his body.

[Mr. Stiller]

Originally Posted by bhaarat316

something funny, i was looking at the DE rankings and it showed Moses as a first rd pick i dont think scott changed it, since Moses ends up falling into the third and bottom second in most drafts.

What happened to Moses i remeber a lot of people wanted to draft him in Jan.

He has us taking Leon Hall,

I quit reading.

[mikehop05]

his new one has us picking timmons

[b316]

Yeah lanky, teams in college are moving to fast and small DEs bac in the day they used to be small DTs, DEs taht moved quick and could creat pressure using strenght as well, like Carikker, and Francis.

[Mr. Stiller]

Originally Posted by mikehop05

his new one has us picking timmons

Probably because it sounded like Tomlin excused his shape at his pro-day.

I'm still saying if Anderson isn't there, watch for "Jon Beason, Linebacker, University of Miami"

I don't think it's a coincidence that he is being brought in on the 19th/20th, when all the players come here....

[Mr. Stiller]

Originally Posted by bhaarat316

Yeah lanky, teams in college are moving to fast and small DEs bac in the day they used to be small DTs, DEs taht moved quick and could creat pressure using strenght as well, like Carikker, and Francis.

I haven't seen Carriker put pressure on anything other than his knees. Francis, Sure, but then again, in a 4-3 in the pro's, only Francis has the speed to be atleast average at DE.

Carriker would be a UT.

As for Fast/Small DE's, I wouldn't complain...Thats what we use for our defense.... Porter, Haggans...

It's not so much size. It helps to be in the 6'3 - 6'5 area... but Harrison is flat 6'0 and he slammed the **** out of Chad Johnson/Browns fan... Haggans I believe is 6'1.

Guys like Merriman/Ware are few/far between, however, guys like Porter can be found if you look hard enough.

Spencer,
Robison,
King,
Hickman,
Tafisi,
Trusnik,
Ford,
Burchette (Fav of mine),
Antwan Applewhite(Reminds me of Derrick Burgess),
Greg Peterson(Not overly fast, but very powerful),
Anthony Brown (Jamaal Andersons, team bookend).

I'm still wondering if Atkins has the Hips to do it. 6'5, 271lbs, 4.69 40'. His 10' was amazing for his size, 1.56, ... with the right coaching, and pass rushing coaching, he could be a developed monster, if not, He could certainly allow Keisel to drop 10-20 lbs and play OLB, and Play DE.

[mikehop05]

blah

his new mock is terrible for us, this is exactly how i hope it doesnt pan out

i could be okay with robinson in the 3rd though, possibly

[terribletowel39]

i agree. not a fan of taking a corner in the first and i know we have gone of who each of us would want if we did take a corner. and i don't think hall is anyone's top corner wanted. we have enough ppl battling for the C position. robinson is a good pick up and one that i am a fan of. i give it a C.

[DeathbyStat]

New Mock
1.Hall

2.Satele

3.Robison

Wasn't this the same mock he did a few weeks ago.

[mikehop05]

before he had staele to us in the 3rd and crowder to us in the 2nd

[Mr. Stiller]

Originally Posted by mikehop05

before he had staele to us in the 3rd and crowder to us in the 2nd

Eh... We could use another G/T swingman before a C/G Swingman.

[glennjamen3]

I really hope we stay away from Leon Hall. I think he is the ONLY potential first rounder that I would be pissed if we took. I don't know how he got so popular but every single game I saw him in (which admittingly were only the big ones) he wasn't able to takle or cover anybody. If we spend our first round just to have HIM sit behind Ike, Bryant, and Deshea then I will seriously start wondering what we are doing. Just my opinion though.

I'm still not really sure about Moss. I don't think he's a pothead, I mean he had to ask the PUNTER where to get weed. But how do you guys think he would do in our system compared to someone like Timmons or Puszlsifnsdify. I live in gainesville so I wanted an outside opinion.

And for Kiesel, I say leave him where he is. He did fine last year and I like Harrison starting at OLB.

[DeathbyStat]

Ask the punter for weed....that is classic.

I think we go with Jammal Anderson at the outside shot he is there....followed by Carriker, Willis, Timmons, and Revis.

[Mr. Stiller]

Originally Posted by glennjamen3

I really hope we stay away from Leon Hall. I think he is the ONLY potential first rounder that I would be pissed if we took. I don't know how he got so popular but every single game I saw him in (which admittingly were only the big ones) he wasn't able to takle or cover anybody. If we spend our first round just to have HIM sit behind Ike, Bryant, and Deshea then I will seriously start wondering what we are doing. Just my opinion though.

I'm still not really sure about Moss. I don't think he's a pothead, I mean he had to ask the PUNTER where to get weed. But how do you guys think he would do in our system compared to someone like Timmons or Puszlsifnsdify. I live in gainesville so I wanted an outside opinion.

And for Kiesel, I say leave him where he is. He did fine last year and I like Harrison starting at OLB.

Guys I absolutely want nothing to do with in Rd 1:

Levi Brown
Leon Hall
Chris Houston

Anyone else I would be pretty ok with..

[b316]

No corners in round 1 unless if those guys Hall or Houston fall in round 2 then i wouldn't mind that would be great value

Brown woulndt be a bad pick the line is kind of a mess right now the only sure spot is Allen but next year he might be gone.

[skarocksoi]

Im gonna be pretty pissed if we take Hall in the first. I've finally convinced my friends that we dont need a corner in the first, and if we take one I will just look silly. Plus we'd be paying a guy millions of bucks to sit behind 2-3 other guys and maybe play occasionally in nickle or dime sets. If you are picking at 15 you need a little more impact than that.

[Mr. Stiller]

Originally Posted by bhaarat316

No corners in round 1 unless if those guys Hall or Houston fall in round 2 then i wouldn't mind that would be great value

Brown woulndt be a bad pick the line is kind of a mess right now the only sure spot is Allen but next year he might be gone.

Brown is going to Bust.. or suck. He's slow, overweight, has questionable motor, isn't a great pass blocker, and doesn't have the stamina to play a full game. We have a faster, stronger and Taller version, his name is Max Starks.

You take a tackle in Round 1 it oughta be Joe Staley.

[DeathbyStat]

New Mock
1.Revis
2.Satele
3.Robison

[terribletowel39]

i don't understand scotts obsession with us taking a center. we have so many guys fighting for the job, it's ridonkulous. i do like Revis over Hall though and have always like the Robinson pick.