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Old 03-24-2010, 01:51 AM    (permalink
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Default Best players never to receive an All-Pro (Ass. Press) or Pro Bowl bid?

Hmm...Mike Minter? Andre Waters? Jake Reed? Brian Kellly? Tom Rathman? Donovan Darius? Aaron Brooks maybe? Just a few off the top of my head.
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I am sad that Minter never got a berth.
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Hmm...Mike Minter? Andre Waters? Jake Reed? Brian Kellly? Tom Rathman? Donovan Darius? Aaron Brooks maybe? Just a few off the top of my head.
I loved Tom Rathman in his playing days. He was such an unselfish player.

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That's what FB are, you have to be... I wish I could remember watching him play, another reason that makes me wish I was born earlier.
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Joey Galloway
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689 receptions
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77 receiving TDs (23rd all-time)
83 total TDs

Amani Toomer
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Jim Plunkett never made a Pro Bowl or All Pro but won two Super Bowl rings and Super Bowl MVP.

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65 career interceptions (4th all-time when he retired)
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Riley was an All Pro three times (1 1st team selection) but somehow NEVER a Pro Bowler.
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Hmm...Mike Minter? Andre Waters? Jake Reed? Brian Kellly? Tom Rathman? Donovan Darius? Aaron Brooks maybe? Just a few off the top of my head.
Jake Reed doesnt put up those numbers without Cris Carter on the field.
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Ken Riley comes to mind for the Bengals ended up 5th on INT List with 65 and he was never voted to the Pro Bowl
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Joey Galloway
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83 total TDs

Amani Toomer
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Jim Plunkett never made a Pro Bowl or All Pro but won two Super Bowl rings and Super Bowl MVP.

Ken Riley - the 'Rattler'
65 career interceptions (4th all-time when he retired)
Holds Bengals team records for career INTs, INT yardage, INT TDs and fumble recoveries.

Riley was an All Pro three times (1 1st team selection) but somehow NEVER a Pro Bowler.
Agree with Toomer. He and Shockey made Kerry Collins a 4000 yard passer for cryin out loud.
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Too be fair, before he melted down, he had a few really good seasons.
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Derrick Mason, I know he's made a couple Pro Bowls, but IDK if he's even been named to an All-Pro team.
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Jake Reed doesnt put up those numbers without Cris Carter on the field.
Okay...Jerry Rice probably doesn't have as many productive seasons without Joe Montana and Steve Young throwing him the ball. Eric Moulds probably would have had a better career if he had a consistent quarterback to toss him the rock. Reed was still a good player and still put up big numbers.

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Agree with Toomer. He and Shockey made Kerry Collins a 4000 yard passer for cryin out loud.
Wow Toomer nothing? Very surprised.
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My homer pick is Dat Nguyen. He was 2nd team All-Pro one time (no Pro Bowls), not sure if that's enough to disqualify him from this conversation.
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Joey Galloway has never been a pro bowler or all pro? Wow, he gets my vote.
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Derrick Mason, I know he's made a couple Pro Bowls, but IDK if he's even been named to an All-Pro team.
When was Derrick Mason ever one of the 4 best WRs in the league?
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When was Derrick Mason ever one of the 4 best WRs in the league?
Well in 2003 he was in the top 4 in receptions...if that counts. But I don't remember any one season where Mason truly dominated at his position and would be in the top three off the top of my head in any given year. But the man has been to a couple of Pro Bowls and made the 1st team All-Pro list in 2000, so he doesn't qualify.
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Did Donnie Edwards ever make one?

Not the same, but crazy years not to make the pro bowl;

Rodney Harrison - 2000
Ladainian Tomlinson - 2003
Donnie Edwards - 2004
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Lots of linemen should be on here, too. Since most people (media included) don't watch or know how to evaluate linemen, you see a lot of the same guys voted in year after year based on name recognition alone.
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