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Old 03-28-2010, 08:30 PM    (permalink
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Default need answers: Chris Long, Reggie Nelson

What's happened with these guys?
I don't get to see as much non-Packers game as I wish I could, but I expected to hear more from these guys by now.

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Chris Long is still decent, he had 5 sacks and was 2nd on his team in qb hits and pressures and I think he was injured for part of the year. Reggie Nelson just sucks
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I thought Reggie Nelson was going to be a pro-bowler.
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Reggie Nelson was terrible last year and is on his way to being a bust if he doesn't improve. He will likely still be the starter next year, so the coaching staff has given him the chance to do so.
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Long is on his way to become a solid DE.

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Long looks very promising actually got some solid pressure on warner towards the end of the season
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Here's the deal with Chris Long, he's a Left End playing Right End. Leonard Little is/was still playing at a high level and we had the best players on the field. Long had a solid rookie season, and the early part of last season was rough for him, he did more thinking than playing. And about half way through the season, the light went on for him, he finished the season STRONG. He was absolutely shutdown in run support, and the announcers pointed that out a lot, he made a lot of plays in the backfield, and strung the play outside so him or one of our Linebackers ( Laurinatis ) could make the play. He also started rushing the passer a lot better too, and was close on a lot of occasions.

He hit the sophmore wall early, but rebounded strong. The light went on and he reacted rather than think, and just let it all go and played relentless. Definitely the way he should be playing. But if he plays next season like he did the last half of the season last year, he's going to put up 13+ sacks and a nice amount of TFL.

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Can't say I've seen many Rams games at all, but having watched all of his college games, he has the technique, strength, work ethic, and motor, to maybe not be on the same level but make a Jared Allen type impact in the league.
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Can't say I've seen many Rams games at all, but having watched all of his college games, he has the technique, strength, work ethic, and motor, to maybe not be on the same level but make a Jared Allen type impact in the league.
Chris was such a beast at UVA, I thought he had the ability to be better than his dad!!
He had an incredible motor and basically could do whatever he wanted to do on the college level. It's good to hear his game is still ascending, he's a guy I'd love to see become an upper echelon DE in the league.

Watching Reggie Nelson at Florida, I thought he was gonna be the NEXT ONE.
Is he playing safety or corner for the Jags???
Call me crazy, but if he's a corner in Jacksonville, he might be out of position. His last year at Florida I thought he was their best player on their defense, just a pure hawk on the football.

Suh on that Rams Dline would be MURDER.
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Nelson is playing FS, although he played CB when there were injuries.
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I loved Chris Long as a prospect, and as a person. He seemed like a less self-righteous version of Tebow.
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Del Rio said his problem is that he had too much success as a rookie. Because of that, he never really worked to take his game to the next level...he's essentially the same player he was in college and teams have figured out how to exploit him. Apparently, he's "realized" his problem and has "rededicated himself" but you hear that **** about every single ******* player in the offseason so I'll believe it when I see it.

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How would you compare Chris Long to Aaron Kampman? Close or way off the mark? Is he more of a technician or athlete? I remember hearing 3-4 talk about him, would that make sense for him?
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Nelson just tries jumping into people all the time.
Trucking WRs may have worked in college, but in the NFL Reggie Nelson is a woman.
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i would like long in a 34 as a RDE more than in a 43....hed kill it on the steelers in keisels spot.

nelson is just terrible
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I actually think we need a thread on young players in general. There are a ton of players who I have no idea what they are doing.
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Just imagine how beastly Chris Long could be next year if the Rams draft Suh and plug him in as DT and Suh gets all of the double teams.
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Don't kid yourselves. Chris Long is a bust. Dude went on a 16 game stretch without recording a sack and he was NUMBER 2 PICK ! That's why he got benched at one point.

I was never sold on him as prospect either. I don't care about his senior stats but he never goes 2nd overall not being a HOF'ers son.
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Don't kid yourselves. Chris Long is a bust. Dude went on a 16 game stretch without recording a sack and he was NUMBER 2 PICK ! That's why he got benched at one point.

I was never sold on him as prospect either. I don't care about his senior stats but he never goes 2nd overall not being a HOF'ers son.
the first part is fair enough and could be true, I don't know. But the second half is just wrong. Dead wrong.
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I won't argue that Nelson was terrible last year, but don't exclude the fact that the Jags were close to an NFL record for fewest sacks by a defense.

Nothing makes a secondary better than a good pass rush.
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Nothing makes a secondary better than a good pass rush.
That, and competent safety play.
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Nothing makes a secondary better than a good pass rush.
Oh absolutely. As it stands right now though, Nelson's biggest problem is that he can't tackle anybody. He thinks he's still in college and that launching his 195 lb body like he's Taylor Mays is going to bring down RBs, TEs, and big WRs in the NFL, and it's just not gonna happen.
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Don't kid yourselves. Chris Long is a bust. Dude went on a 16 game stretch without recording a sack and he was NUMBER 2 PICK ! That's why he got benched at one point.

I was never sold on him as prospect either. I don't care about his senior stats but he never goes 2nd overall not being a HOF'ers son.
I about unloaded on you, but then noticed all the negative rep. I don't want you to commit suicide.
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IMO it's too early to write Chris Long off, but yeah, the expectations should be higher for him considering where he was taken.

Going off the board at #2 for a DE is Mario WIlliams/Julius Peppers territory.

Chris still has a long way to go before he's included in a discussion with those guys.
2010 should be a blowup year for him, IMO.
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