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Old 04-02-2010, 12:12 PM    (permalink
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Wow. The Eagles got ROBBED.

A 4th and a 5th and a cheeseburger for Brown? Thats highway robbery. Brown is an unbelievable CB.

I can see this making sense if the Eagles nab Nmandi, but unless they do, that secondary takes a huge hit.

If the Eagles don't land Nmandi, they're basically admitting that this is a rebuilding year.


Granted, Brown is old and the Eagles are great at knowing exactly when to let go of aging players, but still, I rather keep him for another year and try to make a run than land a 4th and a 5th for such a quality player. I personally think Brown has like 2 years left in him at least.

Brown was the best CB in the East last year.
Its like I said in the Eagles forum, the only way this makes any sense for the Eagles is if they expect to get a relatively high pick, as well as Aso, in a MCNabb trade. If not, this is definitely a rebuilding year.
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Its like I said in the Eagles forum, the only way this makes any sense for the Eagles is if they expect to get a relatively high pick, as well as Aso, in a MCNabb trade. If not, this is definitely a rebuilding year.
even then though, i see no point of giving up Sheldon for a 4th and a 5th. I mean really? A 4th and a 5th is worth that much more to the the team than having Sheldon for 1 or 2 more years?

You can draft his replacement or bring in Aso while still having Sheldon. And how sick would that be? Instead, now, its like a lateral move almost at best.

I just see no reason to accept so little for such a quality player.
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A 4th and a 5th and a cheeseburger for Brown?
Alex Hall is a pretty tasty cheeseburger.
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This new Eagles GM is screwing the team.
Don't forget its really Andy and Joe Banner who make the decisions, not Howie Roseman.
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Don't forget its really Andy and Joe Banner who make the decisions, not Howie Roseman.
However, it seems that Roseman is being screwed and screwing the team at the same time.

Confusing.
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Don't forget its really Andy and Joe Banner who make the decisions, not Howie Roseman.
Then Andy and Joe Banner are really double-penetrating the Eagles in a non-consensual way and Roseman is holding the video camera and pressing record while it happens.
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Confusing.
thats called a threesome
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if Berry is gone then Spiller, Bryant, etc. sound good. Not so sure we'd take those guys though. I think they'd try to trade up or down aggresively to get a guy they really want instead. Earl Thomas could be one to watch.
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Also for the draft, no way we grab Spiller with Harrison, Hillis, Davis, and Jennings... Harrison/Hillis have shown that they both have something as well as Jennings and Davis was drafted last year and hyped pretty well.

Browns should either grab a RT, Bryant, or Berry with the first pick UNLESS they think Clausen is the answer.
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Also for the draft, no way we grab Spiller with Harrison, Hillis, Davis, and Jennings... Harrison/Hillis have shown that they both have something as well as Jennings and Davis was drafted last year and hyped pretty well.

Browns should either grab a RT, Bryant, or Berry with the first pick UNLESS they think Clausen is the answer.
I agree about Spiller, I don't think he should/will be the guy at 7. If Berry isn't there, it would be ideal to move down like last year, even if we get bashed for taking too little in the trade again.
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Hell, I could see the Browns taking McClain before Spiller.

I think Berry is a lock for them if he's still on the board though.
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This makes no sense unless we get Asomugha in a McNabb trade, but like bigblue said I thought that we could get more compensation for Sheldon Brown. However, the Eagles don’t strike out on trades too often, I trust their instinct.
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I always thought Gocong should've played in a 3-4.
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I don't think this trade is as bad as some are making out to be. Sheldon Brown was a very good corner for the Eagles but his play did decline towards the end of the last season and given his age and the fact that he wanted a new contract, this was probably the best time to move him. Could they have gotten more for him? I'm not so sure because how many teams want to pay an aging corner who is starting to show decline? I don't think too many especially for higher picks.

Chris Gocong didn't fit the Eagles' defense and outside of 2008 he was really a non-factor. I don't think acquiring Alex Hall was a better fit for the defense, but I think he's looked at more for his special teams potential.

This draft is plenty deep with secondary players and with Donovan McNabb possibly on the move, it's hard to tell what pieces will added and drafted before next season starts. If they don't fit a suitable replacement for Brown then it will be a failure, but at this point I don't think it was too bad of a deal for either side.
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One thing to remember: as good as Brown was in the past for the team, he is 31 years old, suffering from a hamstring injury, and at best has 2 years left in the tank.

The position needed to be upgraded at some point anyway. Now we know that the there is a 95% chance the Eagles go DB in the first round - Kyle Wilson, Earl Thomas, Devin McCourty, or massive trade-up for Eric Berry.
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At this rate Oakland's going to get McNabb for a 3rd rounder and Stanford Routt.
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At this rate Oakland's going to get McNabb for a 3rd rounder and Stanford Routt.
Or trade straight up for sorgi.
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Ummmm wait... we really just traded a great athlete at SLB with potential to blow up in a 3-4 defense and our best corner for a scrub and some spare draft picks?!

ANDY THAT WAS SO ************* STUPID OF YOU TO DO!

EDIT: But this isn't a good deal for the Browns either. Eagles lose starting CB but the Browns are rebuilding and don't need a 31 year old CB

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All kidding aside, this is a very good deal for the Browns.
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The Browns defense is really getting better. If they get Berry, they'll have three fourths of a very awesome secondary. Now only if they get a QB, they could be a sleeper team.
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All kidding aside, this is a very good deal for the Browns.
It all depends on how much Brown has left in the tank.

There is a strong possibility that, at 31 years old with an injury history, he might have seen his last effective year in Philadlephia, and not Cleveland.

He really got worse down the stretch in 2009. He clearly has lost a step in coverage. I firmly believe that he's seen his best days as a corner.
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It all depends on how much Brown has left in the tank.

There is a strong possibility that, at 31 years old with an injury history, he might have seen his last effective year in Philadlephia, and not Cleveland.

He really got worse down the stretch in 2009. He clearly has lost a step in coverage. I firmly believe that he's seen his best days as a corner.
Hamstring injury, ever heard of one?
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Lets all be honest here..the truly important implication of this trade is that Joe Haden could slide to the Niners. ..
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