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Old 06-21-2010, 07:02 PM    (permalink
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Everything I've read indicates that Campbell is struggling to transition to guard. I'm not really sure what we're doing there. I don't often question Cable when it comes to offensive linemen, but Campbell is so clearly a tackle to me and I don't really get trying him inside even if it is just to get snaps.

Carlisle is old but he's a ZBS pro who can run block quite well. Campbell would have to show some savvy to de-throne him.
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Everything I've read indicates that Campbell is struggling to transition to guard. I'm not really sure what we're doing there. I don't often question Cable when it comes to offensive linemen, but Campbell is so clearly a tackle to me and I don't really get trying him inside even if it is just to get snaps.

Carlisle is old but he's a ZBS pro who can run block quite well. Campbell would have to show some savvy to de-throne him.
There trying to move Campbell to guard? I don't like that move at all.
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There trying to move Campbell to guard? I don't like that move at all.
Not permanently. The thought process was that Oakland has a lot of tackles competing right now (Henderson, Veldheer, Walker, Barnes, and Pears) and it looks right now like Henderson has a strong hold on the LT job. That leaves 3 or 4 guys to battle for RT even without Campbell. The coaches know Campbell will take some developing, but they want him to get some snaps in the run-up to the season, and there's not much sitting behind Gallery and Carlisle at guard.

I think that maybe Cable is also thinking that while Campbell was pretty good kicking out at Maryland, he struggled when he played in a phone booth, so guard gives him a shot at working out those kinks without being expected to start anywhere right now. Best case scenario is he develops quickly and beats Carlisle out, worst case scenario is he gets a shot at RT next year when Walker and Barnes are gone and Henderson may not come back (assuming Mario can even keep his job through this season).

I don't think it's a permanent move, more of a teaching move, but I think it could be risky.
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Everything I've read indicates that Campbell is struggling to transition to guard. I'm not really sure what we're doing there. I don't often question Cable when it comes to offensive linemen, but Campbell is so clearly a tackle to me and I don't really get trying him inside even if it is just to get snaps.

Carlisle is old but he's a ZBS pro who can run block quite well. Campbell would have to show some savvy to de-throne him.
Oakland Raiders OG Bruce Campbell has been coming along nicely during offseason practices at his new position of offensive guard, reports Gil Brandt, of NFL.com, according to managing general partner Al Davis. Campbell has a tendency to play a little bit high, but the team is impressed with him. He just needs to improve on his knee bends.

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Oakland Raiders OL Bruce Campbell said his transition from an offensive tackle in college to a guard in the NFL has been a bit of a struggle so far, reports Jerry McDonald, of ANG Newspapers. "I was a left tackle, now I'm playing right guard," Campbell said. "It's a totally different experience. I'm used to space on the outside. Now I'm on the inside with a lot of help. People would say it's easier, but I don't see it being easier right now."
I'm gonna believe Campbell way before I believe Davis.
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That was posted like a week after he got drafted first time playing OG some time has passed since that but we shall wait and see then
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Albert Haynesworth still being rumored to maybe be a target of ours... I wouldnt mind it if its not for alot. Albert and Henderson rotate at NT..... nice
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Everything I've read indicates that Campbell is struggling to transition to guard. I'm not really sure what we're doing there. I don't often question Cable when it comes to offensive linemen, but Campbell is so clearly a tackle to me and I don't really get trying him inside even if it is just to get snaps.

Carlisle is old but he's a ZBS pro who can run block quite well. Campbell would have to show some savvy to de-throne him.
I've pretty much felt the same about Campbell. To me tall and lanky = OT, not guard. The guy is pretty athletic for a lineman and those skills would be best used on the outside, although he obviously he needs a lot of polish. Hopefully the guard thing is only temporary.
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If we can get him for a 3rd or 4th rounder and he's willing to stick with his current contract, I'd make the deal. There's basically no guaranteed money left, so cutting him would be absolutely free. Pay him as long as he produces and no longer.

If he wants to renegotiate and the Redskins price is too high, I really don't see the point. Haynesworth might be good, but he'd also certainly be a headache at some point, and considering he was complaining before his first season with Washington was even finished, I'm not sure it would be more than a 1 or 2 year rental.
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Reason why Campbell is being worked at OG is one to get on the field and I also think they are going to pull the guards more like the Jets do.
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We should sign Kevin Mawae. Gives Satele good compitition in camp and Im pretty sure we are going to either sign or draft a center high next year if Al stays like he was this off season. Mawae still has some left in the take and would sure up the middle of the oline for a year.
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Mawae, like John Henderson, would be one of those guys who's not even guaranteed to make it through camp, but if he wants to give it a shot in Oakland it would be hard not to welcome him.

Satele certainly isn't anything special.
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Im sure it will only take a min contract to get him signed this late in the offseason. **** it see if he has anything left in the tank and if not cut ties with him and go with Satele
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We need a big C...everyone in our division runs the 3-4. I hate ZBS anyway.
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Who else do we have at center besides chris morris?? Because other than that i couldnt think of anyone. Morris is more of a backup he didnt impress me at all he was in last year
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he was hurt last year and even when he was healthy he seemed completely ineffective
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No posts in here for about a week....

Heres the Madden ratings for the Raiders

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Sometimes I hate these ratings haha. Jacoby Ford is better than 60 overall.
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Bruce Campbell rated higher than Veldheer
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The Samson Satele rating was the absolute worst that I saw there.
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i hate the LaMarr Houston rating, only 70overall and 77STR, this guy is a beast and he should get at least 85+ at strength after 30+bench press.
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i think McClain is a lil slower than i would like but i totally think houston's strength should be rated higher
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If you like defense and good with the sticks the raider defense is gonna be nasty then.
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Hey guys did a quick off the top of my head projection on the best case scenario for us..

@ Tennessee Titans – L
St. Louis Rams – W
@ Arizona Cardinals – W
Houston Texans – W
San Diego Chargers – L
@ San Francisco – L
@ Denver – W
Seattle Seahawks – W
Kansas City Chiefs – W
@ Pittsburgh – L
Miami Dolphins – W
@ San Diego Chargers – L
@ Jacksonville – W
Denver Broncos – L
Indianapolis Colts – L
@ Kansas City - W
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