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Old 04-23-2010, 08:57 PM    (permalink
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Oh and we have 9 picks for tomorrow, 6 in the first 41.

Also I just read Andy Reid said Nate Allen can play corner. Oh god. Andy please don't be stupid.
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Daniel Te'o-Nesheim is being moved to SLB after playing DE at Washington, an Eagles scout says he is similar to Gocong as a player. Great...

Anyways another high motor, great intangibles pick by the Eagles.

By the way I am not a huge Nate Allen fan and I don't see a ton of upside there but he should be a solid starter for a while. I would've preffered Morgan Burnett at #55 but w/e Nate Allen is a good player who is intelligent and is an extremely well rounded safety.
I like Burnett because he is more of a complete Safety, but its obvious the Eagles aren't going to be relying on him against the run with the front 7 being put in place as it is... If the front 7 works as it should, Allen has mmore value than Burnett would, as Allen has a bit more range and is a little more of a playmaker once the ball is in the air.
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Oh and we have 9 picks for tomorrow, 6 in the first 41.

Also I just read Andy Reid said Nate Allen can play corner. Oh god. Andy please don't be stupid.
Key words, no need to overreact...
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I do not understand the Daniel Te'o-Nesheim pick at all. At least Gocong was a freak athlete at his size.

Also, why is Everson Griffen still on the board?
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I do not understand the Daniel Te'o-Nesheim pick at all. At least Gocong was a freak athlete at his size.

Also, why is Everson Griffen still on the board?
I'd imagine the stigma about USC DEs is hurting him a little bit. I would've thought he have been off the board mid 2 at worst. There may be some health issues or something we don't know about, as that was the case for a few guys dropping.
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I do not understand the Daniel Te'o-Nesheim pick at all. At least Gocong was a freak athlete at his size.

Also, why is Everson Griffen still on the board?
DTN will be a DE, not SLB, those reports were wrong.
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That makes that pick even worse!

Why would we make one of our deepest positions even deeper? Especially when Austen Lane, Corey Wootton, and Everson Griffen, all superior prospects, are still available.
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I do not understand the Daniel Te'o-Nesheim pick at all. At least Gocong was a freak athlete at his size.
And DTN isn't a freak athlete? He ran a 4.73 40 time, he is 6'4" and 265 pounds, he has a 37" vertical (second highest at the combine), a 10'01" broad jump, a 4.18 shuttle time which is off the charts and third best at the combine (only notable higher was Jerry Hughes) and if I remember his 10 yard split was really good as well.
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That makes that pick even worse!

Why would we make one of our deepest positions even deeper? Especially when Austen Lane, Corey Wootton, and Everson Griffen, all superior prospects, are still available.
Because DTN fits the Eagles scheme better. I see DTN ultimately ending up at RE due to his style of play. Wootton may end up going to a 3-4 team due to his size, and even if he stays the same, will end up a LE, which the Eagles don't need. Not to mention Wootton's style of play doesn't fit with the defense at all. Griffen, IDK, something is up with him that we don't know about yet, and he is a LE anyway. And Lane is not a superior prospect to DTN. DTN was talked about possibly going in the second round, did you see anyone saying the same for Lane?
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I'm not going to defend it blindly like a homer, but, outside of Ansah and Norwood, DTN may have been the best value for the Eagles there.
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Plus his core strength is great, he has a strong base and he is actually really strong. He was arguably the best DE at the combine in terms of workout numbers.
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Gocong:
6′2⅛″, 263 lb
4.70 forty
1.61 ten yard split
2.74 twenty yard split
7.06 3 cone
42 in. vertical
10′5″ broad jump
28 rep bench press
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Plus his core strength is great, he has a strong base and he is actually really strong. He was arguably the best DE at the combine in terms of workout numbers.
I like how that pic shows the O-linemen giving us the textbook example for holding, lol. As a former linemen, not his proudest moment, I can tell you that.
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Fact of the matter is that DTN will have a TREMENDOUSLY hard time finding ANY playing time, outside of special teams, if he does make the roster. I also remember Bryan Smith being an "excellent fit" to our system. He, like DTN, was also a 3rd pick.

While I'm on the subject though, I would put Everson Griffen at RDE in a heartbeat. His speed coming off the edge would make him a great fit. Lane is also pretty versatile, but I agree on Wootton.

I just have a hard time understanding why DE is getting so much attention this offseason. We've added three players to our DE rotation, and only took one away. Our DE's weren't even the weakness of this dline.
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DTN is about 30 pounds heavier than Smith was, is coming from a D-I school where he played against the top talent in the Pac-10. He is also infinitely stronger. He is nothing like Smith, not even close.
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We also have no business having 9 more draft picks (two of which are compensatory) when we wont be using most of them (probably 5) and they're all late round picks. Sometimes I feel like the Eagles try too hard to find that diamond in the rough, a la Trent Cole, Brian Westbrook, etc.
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SO is he playing RDE or SLB? Cause if he is a Lb fail, if the Eagles ran a 3-4 then it would be fine to play him at olb.

According to SackSEER, he won't be a bust. Well actually sackSEER predicts bust better than non bust.
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DTN is rated as a late rounder/FA on almost every web site Mayock hated the pick and gave us a 2.0 grade on it. I cant understand why he is rated so low he has the production he has the combine numbers it doesn't make sense to me.
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Trevard Lindley.

Dont know how I feel about that pick. I dont want to hate on every Eagles pick, but I definitely wanted AOA.
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Dont know how I feel about that pick. I dont want to hate on every Eagles pick, but I definitely wanted AOA.
It's ok to hate one this one. He has regressed each of the past two years and was demolished at the Senior Bowl. Some people thought he was a 6th-7th rounder at best.

He has speed and confidence issues.

Hey, what a surprise. Another terrible pick.

Keenan Clayton OLB Oklahoma. Projected 7th round pick to FA. Small Linebacker.

Could have gotten Cam Thomas or Eric Norwood.

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I'm perfectly fine with the Keenan Clayton pick.

Not a huge fan of Mike Kafka, probably wouldnt have been my ideal QB pick, but I'll take it.
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This has gotten ridiculous. Three DE's, one CB, one S, and one QB. I'm also so giddy with excitement about the rest of our late round picks being used on offensive lineman.
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And now Sapp? What the hell, why so many DE's?
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I absolutely HATE what we have done so far in the draft. I'll have a more detailed post after the draft is over, but this is sad.
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Absolutely love the Cooper pick. Great, great value.
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