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Old 04-29-2011, 01:42 AM    (permalink
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Add Drake Nevis to that list.

One of the side effects of the draft probably being the deepest ever at DT is that you can't remember all of them.
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Carimi on paper was obvious for us but I'm delighted we didn't screw that up. Which means...I think Ruskell will take guys he knows he should pick in favor of guys whos names we have written all over our diary.

So maybe McClain waits until a much more logical 93 rather than 62...Idk, something feels different about our approach now. Something better. Something wetter...
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Carimi on paper was obvious for us but I'm delighted we didn't screw that up. Which means...I think Ruskell will take guys he knows he should pick in favor of guys whos names we have written all over our diary.

So maybe McClain waits until a much more logical 93 rather than 62...Idk, something feels different about our approach now. Something better. Something wetter...
They said they focus a lot more on the early round prospects compared to the mid-late round guys.

Payed off with Carimi.
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I wonder if this has any legs-
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Fuk off Ozzie!

That's our 4th rounder!
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JA has gotten so good at screwing up the draft that he is now screwing up the drafts for other teams...

And if they take our 4th, **** em. We didn't get their pick, they don't get ours. Our fault or not.

BTW I'm pretty happy about Carimi. After hearing Marvin "High School Hype" Austin linked to us so damn much, I would have been just fine with nearly anybody else. Carimi is solid.
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They said they focus a lot more on the early round prospects compared to the mid-late round guys.

Payed off with Carimi.
Exactly what I was talking about, yeah. But I meant maybe we've changed to a staunch BPA theory, as well.

Oh, and just like Olsen was BPA/need, I'm 60% sure we're going to follow up Carimi with a wasted Bazuin selection :/ Holy **** after typing that I went and looked at that draft and...Bazuin and Wolfe were the 62nd and 93rd picks...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!111
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Exactly what I was talking about, yeah. But I meant maybe we've changed to a staunch BPA theory, as well.

Oh, and just like Olsen was BPA/need, I'm 60% sure we're going to follow up Carimi with a wasted Bazuin selection :/ Holy **** after typing that I went and looked at that draft and...Bazuin and Wolfe were the 62nd and 93rd picks...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!111
Don't forget Michael Okwo exactly one spot after Wolfe. Imagine how good we'd be if those three picks weren't wasted.

I remember that I wanted Quincy Black, Michael Bush, and Manny Ramirez there. Obviously, Manny Ramirez blows and Quicy Black is basically a young Hunter Hillenmeyer, but Michael Bush owns souls.

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The Ravens shouldn't get dick. It happens. I'm think WR in the second. Got Cutler some more protection now get him some more options.
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Heard on local ESPN affiliate that "a source" said that the Bears are targeting another Wisconsin lineman, Moffitt, in the second...as a Center.

Sounds too good to be true. He's another mauler with a nasty attitude. Couldn't hurt to have two buddies who played on the same line in college together in the locker room, either...especially when it's time to sign their second contracts.

It'd be very unJerrylike to go OL in the first and second.

2- Moffitt
3- Best DT available?
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If we get 2 players from the same school, like we like to do now, that would be sweet. (Much better than Austin and Little) Especially as a Center if thats true. I was thinking Wisniewski at 62 after we took Carimi but I could live with that. A little high for Moffitt but the 2 as a pair would make up for it.

[edit] I was thinking WR too before I read that. Its cliche now but Little makes the most sense there.
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Hoping for someone from this list in the second:

Stefan Wisniewski, OC
Rodney Hudson, OC
Jurrell Casey, DT
Jarvis Jenkins, DT
Marvin Austin, DT
Orlando Franklin, OT/OG
Clint Boling, OG
Davon House, CB
John Moffitt, OG/OC
Ben Ijalana, OT
Leonard Hankerson, WR
Greg Little, WR
Ras-I Dowling, CB

Just heaps of sexy, sexy talent left in this draft. So deep.

As for the first rounder...Yeah. Damned good. I love a guy who plays like he wants to kill the opposition. Opposite of Chris Williams.
Few names missing from this list:

Brandon Harris
Aaron Williams
Christian Ballard
Allen Bailey
Stephen Paea
Bruce Carter
Torrey Smith
Will Rackley
Marcus Gilbert

We are going to get another really good player.. I am excited.

I wouldn't touch Moffit until the 3rd, however. If we go center, give me Hudson or Wisniewski, but I think Wis is going to the Raiders.
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Even though I obviously don't want to lose the draft pick, I can certainly see the argument of giving it to Baltimore. It's stunning that you could agree to a trade and simply not report it because both staffers "thought the other guy was doing it." That's beyond embarrassing.

Either way, both of those staffers should be fired immediately.
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Even though I obviously don't want to lose the draft pick, I can certainly see the argument of giving it to Baltimore. It's stunning that you could agree to a trade and simply not report it because both staffers "thought the other guy was doing it." That's beyond embarrassing.

Either way, both of those staffers should be fired immediately.
Angelo can't be well respected around the league. Tons of blunders like this.

How about calling James Stark, telling him he was being drafted, and then drafting someone else.. Just ugly.

Can you imagine if Baltimore wanted Baldwin how ugly this would be?
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I like Angelo. Whereas other people might find him too draconian (or simply like to complain no matter who is in charge), I like that he consistently follows his gameplan and convictions.

That said, it's just....weird. For a staff that preaches not overreaching, it seems like they are often trying to make too many steps when simply one will do. Angelo blames the disconnect on too many things occurring at once. Well, if you don't have the trade/pick settled within five minutes, you simply don't do it. Balancing numerous conversations down to the last minute is untenable.
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Angelo can't be well respected around the league. Tons of blunders like this.

How about calling James Stark, telling him he was being drafted, and then drafting someone else.. Just ugly.

Can you imagine if Baltimore wanted Baldwin how ugly this would be?
Disagree. Nearly EVERYONE who's ever been drafted has been called and told that exact same thing only to see someone else's name scrolling across the screen. Par for the course.
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Disagree. Nearly EVERYONE who's ever been drafted has been called and told that exact same thing only to see someone else's name scrolling across the screen. Par for the course.
Um, no.

Teams may call ahead and say "Hey, we might be taking you here" but to call him and tell him the pick was in while you are on the clock is not par for the course.

Gabriel described it as the most embarrassing thing he's ever been apart of.

"and while Gabriel was explaining rookie minicamp to Starks, general manager Jerry Angelo changed his mind."

This is not STANDARD.
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I've been reading draft crap online all day and haven't seen anything else about Bears/Moffitt.

Either the "source" was so great that he's the only one who leaked the plan or the radio host was full of ****.
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My personal short list:


Da’Quan Bowers
Marvin Austin
Torrey Smith
Ben Ijalana
Rodney Hudson
Stephen Paea
Allen Bailey
Marcus Cannon
Davon House
Jurrell Casey
Drake Nevis
Terrell McClain
Clint Boling


I really like Torrey Smith, dude has crazy ups, but he won't last.
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Bears use the 2nd and 4th rounder on Steven Paea. Damn, that's sexy.

This is so weird. Usually, I'm screaming at Jerry Angelo after a Bears draft pick. He's being surprisingly competent this week.
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Nice pick! I really like our first two picks!
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I remember reading that if Carimi hadn't been there we would have taken Paea so we had a first round grade on him.
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