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Old 05-07-2010, 07:31 PM    (permalink
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The top one might be before he was caught, the bottom one after he was caught and stopped.
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Bottom one or "Pre-steroids" He has a neck tattoo and top or "Post- steroids" the tattoo is gone.

I'm not really sure what i happen to be getting at but its just a tad suspicious.

and with the amount of tattoos that man has i doubt he had it removed.
Top one is supposed to be when he was using Steroids, and the bottom one is supposed to be what he looks like after coming off of them for a while. I dunno how that works though and how long a body takes to return to it's normal state.
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What am StERoIDZZ!!??, Brian??

Ha, ha.


IMO no football program assists players in how to cycle anabolics; too risky for the program if someone talked and could easily result in a lifetime ban from the NCAA.

But whenever a coach at a top 20 program tells a kid, 'you need to gain about 30# to get significant playing time,' or, ' we'd give you a scholarship if only you could get a little bigger,' the message has been sent. At that point, it's not that hard to find someone who can help you bulk up using PE drugs.

Steriod use/anabolics are MUCH more prevalent in football than they ever were in baseball, IMO. Problem with a dummy like Cush is, once you get to the weight and strength level where you want to be, you quit cold turkey and bust your ass on a strict weightlifting and conditioning program, take massive amounts of protein, heavy doses of glutamine, and keep it moving.

Cush and Matthews IMO both were on something at some point during their HS, college, and/or pro careers.

Regardless, Matthews appears to be an extremely athletic guy from jump who used anabolics to fill out his frame.

Cushing, I wish I was surprised, but I heard all this crap about him as a prep. There was a thread on here somewhere about USC players taking steroids. If you've played football and go to a heavy duty gym on a regular basis, you just hear things about certain guys.

I have no doubt there are some players who have someone inside the league office who leaks to them ( for a price) when the NFL is going to test, and prepare themselves accordingly.
To get busted from a urine test takes a serious deficiency in brain cells!!, LOLOL!

As for Merriman, the dude was a less than 170# as a HS freshman and proceeded to put on 60# of muscle by his senior year. He then put on 25# of muscle in 2 years at UMD. Matthews has a similar weight gain arc from HS to college.
I love Merriman's game and he's one of my fav NFL players, but odds are he's juiced at some point during his career.

TO me it's hilarious how often Cushing denied ever taking 'roids prior to the draft, and BAM!, dude gets caught with is pants down.

People love to talk about how the game of football has gotten bigger, faster and stronger over the last 30 years, but trust me, that wasn't the natural march of human evolution.

It was chemical warfare at its finest being waged in every lockerroom throughout the NFL.

Not saying most football players have used illegal supplements, let's not forget there are legitimate freaks playing the game of football, but there are many more who have cycled than most fans are willing to admit, IMO.
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Top one is supposed to be when he was using Steroids, and the bottom one is supposed to be what he looks like after coming off of them for a while. I dunno how that works though and how long a body takes to return to it's normal state.
It depends on how intense your training after you cycle off. If he stopped in conjunction with his injury then he could've easily lost his mass quickly.
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Top one is supposed to be when he was using Steroids, and the bottom one is supposed to be what he looks like after coming off of them for a while. I dunno how that works though and how long a body takes to return to it's normal state.
Very well could be. I tried to find some older pictures of him to see if he had the tat then

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Matthews IMO both were on something at some point during their HS, college, and/or pro careers.

Regardless, Matthews appears to be an extremely athletic guy from jump who used anabolics to fill out his frame.
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Bottom one or "Pre-steroids" He has a neck tattoo and top or "Post- steroids" the tattoo is gone.

I'm not really sure what i happen to be getting at but its just a tad suspicious.

and with the amount of tattoos that man has i doubt he had it removed.
The top one is Merriman's head photoshopped onto Jamal Williams' body. I remember seeing it discussed and proved on another forum.
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The top one is Merriman's head photoshopped onto Jamal Williams' body. I remember seeing it discussed and proved on another forum.
Sure looks like it now you say it

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The top one is Merriman's head photoshopped onto Jamal Williams' body. I remember seeing it discussed and proved on another forum.
lol it's inventive I'll give them that.
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Like it has been said before, a large percentage of these guys use PDEs. HGH if you are rich. Roids if not so rich.

I will die laughing if Tebow gets caught. The dude's face is stretched taut over that puffy massive head.
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I'm surprised... That this didn't come out sooner.
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This doesn't surprise me. I had heard rumors and Cushing just kinda looks like a guy on PEDs.
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sucks for him about this happening . But he learn the hard way and hopefully get clean .
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Yeah, his forehead was growing a forehead.
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Yeah, that image of Merriman was fake, they did it for coffee mugs or something stupid like that. They needed a team photo for Merriman and didn't have one, and used a fake one.

Notice the wrinkles of the jersey, including the shoulder pads. They're identical.



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... you don't say. Really?
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These guys make millions... they know what they are putting into their bodies regardless of what anyone claims.

The cycle for trying to dodge the tests and such is incredibly complicated. They are heavily regimented.

Everyone is probably on something, but Maryland especially seems to be producing inhuman freaks in recent years and I'm willing to bet Shawn Merriman's knee is in the shape it is partly due to what he's been putting into his body.
And I'm willing to bet it's because he waited so long to have surgery on it. His knee wasn't the main problem last year. It was the other injuries that occurred because he was trying to compensate for it.
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How could you possibly prove this...Merriman's knee got destroyed because a Titan dove into it. It's on film.
Correction. Two Titans dove on it. And he still managed to come back from the injury to help the team in the playoffs. The main issue is how long he waited to get it repaired once the season was over.
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You do know that's a photoshop of Merriman's head on Jamal William's body on the first picture right?
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i did after everyone in this thread mentioned it, before you.
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i did after everyone in this thread mentioned it, before you.
No worries. It was my pleasure helping out.

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Yeah, shocking.

Like hundreds of us weren't beating this drum before last year's draft.
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Not surprised.

Yep.... I don't believe anyone should be surprised by this "development".
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Yeah, shocking.

Like hundreds of us weren't beating this drum before last year's draft.
Well, there were still hundreds who were beating Cushing's "drum" leading up to the draft regardless of the steroid speculation. The drum that is now most likely shriveled due to the roiding.
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