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Another team to think about if the Mountain West wants to expand to twelve outside of Houston and Fresno State is Nevada. Natural rival with UNLV as well a travel partner, solid football program, solid basketball program, larger endowment than Fresno State....
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I disagree with that part sort of. Fresno State was a really interesting matchup with Boise State last year, because so many people don't buy that Boise State's defense could stop a big, power running team. Well, Fresno State brought Ryan Mathews and Lonyae Miller, who were both big, big backs at about 230lbs each and Mathews obviously very fast and Boise State won.

Pat Hill is good at adapting his offense to his talent and as a result, he can usually provide a good measuring stick for a team like Boise State and I think they'd do very well in the MW.

Yes Boise won the game in a shootout.... but their defense couldn't even come CLOSE to stopping Fresno's downhill rushing attack....

Fresno rushed for over 300 yards against them at an 8.2 YPC clip..... Hell, Ryan Mathews had 3 TD runs of over 60 yards...

If they played a team with a devastating downhill power rushing attack like that with a double-headed monster combined of two powerful, fast, explosive backs.....but could also play defense....

...those cute little Boise fellas would be in for a world of hurt IMO....
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People keep saying that but those cute little Boise fellas keep coming up big.
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People keep saying that but those cute little Boise fellas keep coming up big.
Personally, I think Boise State is going to beat Virginia Tech unless the Hokies block a kick. Chris Peterson is one of the best in the business and with this much time to prepare for one game, I think he's going to come up big
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Personally, I think Boise State is going to beat Virginia Tech unless the Hokies block a kick. Chris Peterson is one of the best in the business and with this much time to prepare for one game, I think he's going to come up big
Definitely. I'm rooting for the upset.
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How is beating Virginia Tech an upset? Are they being over-rated again? :/
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How is beating Virginia Tech an upset? Are they being over-rated again? :/
It's not an upset. Boise State is ranked in the Top 5 and is returning 21 starters. It's a road game no matter what anyone wants to say, but Boise State winning would definitely not be an upset at this point
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People keep saying that but those cute little Boise fellas keep coming up big.
Yep....about once or twice a year when they actually play somebody...

Spread teams from the Pac-10, Big-12, etc.. that spread you out and try to run sideways on you doesn't impress me..

I'm talking about beating somebody that's going to line up in two-tights and run downhill on them with speed, physicality, and power..... somebody that can actually play a lick of defense too...

If they can beat VT in Blacksburg...it'll go a long way towards impressing me... even if they're not the "underdogs" in BCS sense... but in a practical sense..
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Yep....about once or twice a year when they actually play somebody...

Spread teams from the Pac-10, Big-12, etc.. that spread you out and try to run sideways on you doesn't impress me..

I'm talking about beating somebody that's going to line up in two-tights and run downhill on them with speed, physicality, and power..... somebody that can actually play a lick of defense too...

If they can beat VT in Blacksburg...it'll go a long way towards impressing me... even if they're not the "underdogs" in BCS sense... but in a practical sense..
Game's in DC and I don't think beating VT would show that. They don't go downhill a ton.

Oklahoma did though when Boise State beat them. Again, in a one game scenario, I think Boise State can beat anyone based, but week to week playing an SEC or Big Ten schedule, I think they'd get worn down, especially against SEC Defensive Lines
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Game's in DC and I don't think beating VT would show that. They don't go downhill a ton.

Oklahoma did though when Boise State beat them. Again, in a one game scenario, I think Boise State can beat anyone based, but week to week playing an SEC or Big Ten schedule, I think they'd get worn down, especially against SEC Defensive Lines
Yes DC....it'll be just like a rockin' home game similar to Lane Stadium for the Hokes though..

Oklahoma has never featured a downhill rushing attack under Stoops....always been the spread. The same offense that Chuck Long took to SDSU with him... they were using a WR at quarterback for pete's sake....

Adrian Peterson was a downhill runner... but it's still not neccessarily what I'm talking about....

They didn't "beat" Oklahoma...they simply squeaked out a one point victory with an incredible call on a gadget play because they had nothing to lose by trying...there's a difference...

Georgia however.... BEAT Boise St.... BEAT the **** out of them...like they stole som'n...

I agree with you on the one game scenario thing.....which is why the best TEAMS don't always end up reflected in the BCS rankings.... I've always been a playoff supporter anyway....
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Yes DC....it'll be just like a rockin' home game similar to Lane Stadium for the Hokes though..

Oklahoma has never featured a downhill rushing attack under Stoops....always been the spread. The same offense that Chuck Long took to SDSU with him... they were using a WR at quarterback for pete's sake....

Adrian Peterson was a downhill runner... but it's still not neccessarily what I'm talking about....

They didn't "beat" Oklahoma...they simply squeaked out a one point victory with an incredible call on a gadget play because they had nothing to lose by trying...there's a difference...

Georgia however.... BEAT Boise St.... BEAT the **** out of them...like they stole som'n...

I agree with you on the one game scenario thing.....which is why the best TEAMS don't always end up reflected in the BCS rankings.... I've always been a playoff supporter anyway....
When did Georgia play Boise State? Last team I remember Georgia beating the crap out of was Hawaii.
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I think I remember UGA playing Boise St., but it was a couple of years ago. I think it was @ Georgia though.

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Admittedly, Boise State has gotten much better as a program since 2005. During that 2005 season they failed to notch a single noteworthy win over a program that carries any merit and finished 9-4 with a loss to Boston College in the Humanitarian Bowl.
That Georgia team that beat Boise State 48-13 to open the year went on to go to the Sugar Bowl and lose to West Virginia 38-35. Comparing those two teams that year is comparing apples to oranges.
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Oklahoma did though when Boise State beat them. Again, in a one game scenario, I think Boise State can beat anyone based, but week to week playing an SEC or Big Ten schedule, I think they'd get worn down, especially against SEC Defensive Lines
I don't think there are many teams that could go toe-to-toe week in and week out against SEC, Big Ten, or even Big XII caliber offenses and defenses on a weekly basis. Most of the ACC, Big East, and PAC 10 could not do it. Discussing the possibility that Boise St. try to do that is a moot point since they don't need to do that week-to-week to be legitimized. Competing and winning against Utah, BYU, and TCU in the MWC along with playing solidified programs like Virginia Tech, Oregon, and Oregon State in the regular season is what they need to do. Winning bowl games against established programs is just lagniappe (a little extra).
By moving to the Mountain West, the Broncos are making the next step in establishing themselves as one of the strongest mid majors and a team that if they bring their A game could potentially beat any team in the country. By adding Boise St, the Mountain West is also making a smart move by increasing the level of competition on the gridiron and solidifies their case to become a BCS conference. Adding a team like Houston, Fresno State, or Nevada, or any two of the three, is increasing the strength of the middle of the pack programs in the MWC and would give teams like Air Force and possibly Wyoming more competition.
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One school that I just thought of that could interest the Mountain West is Southern Methodist (SMU). They have a huge endowment, are a highly touted research university with fantastic academics, and have returned to being a competitive team on the football field. They also make a natural travel partner with TCU as well as a natural cross town rival with the Horned Frogs being the Mustangs closest athletic rival.
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According to ESPN's Joe Schad, Boise State will join the MWC today.
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I love seeing Boise join MWC. Boise definately needed to do something to improve their schedule.

I'll be rooting hard for VT next season. I know I don't wanna see undefeated Boise come bowl time.
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I love seeing Boise join MWC. Boise definately needed to do something to improve their schedule.

I'll be rooting hard for VT next season. I know I don't wanna see undefeated Boise come bowl time.
Their schedule was never as bad as people liked to make it out to be... teams just refuse to play them.
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I love seeing Boise join MWC. Boise definately needed to do something to improve their schedule.

I'll be rooting hard for VT next season. I know I don't wanna see undefeated Boise come bowl time.
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Their schedule is always considerably weaker than it should have been. This will improve it. Playing the MWC and one good OOC game should give them a respectable enough schedule.

Look at next year. They have VT and Oregon State as their two toughest games. It'll be much better seeing them play BYU, TCU, and Utah for conference games.
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Their schedule is always considerably weaker than it should have been. This will improve it. Playing the MWC and one good OOC game should give them a respectable enough schedule.

Look at next year. They have VT and Oregon State as their two toughest games. It'll be much better seeing them play BYU, TCU, and Utah for conference games.
Yes and they literally had the open date that became VT and had an open challenge to ANYONE. It sat there for a few weeks before VT took it and they have to play in DC because no one will go home and home with them.

And I'll take Chris Peterson to get Boise State to win that game with 21 of 22 starters coming back.
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