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Old 09-20-2011, 10:15 PM    (permalink
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So what does that mean for Oklahoma and OKST? Oklahoma to the SEC lol
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This is good news to me, which means the Big Ten that has 12 teams will stay as well. Just as grandpa BF said. I like this.
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Joe Schad reporting on Twitter that, "Big East says it has commitment from all 7 schools around table tonite."

Yeah, we'll see if that lasts.
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That's shocking. I'm pretty OK with it though. I was rooting for the Big XII to stay together. Taking the regional element out of it all is sort of bad for the health of the sport, in my opinion. It will be interesting to see what happens with the Big East now. I think this could screw them even worse. They were sort of banking on forming a "what's left" conference. If the ACC decides to take still take UConn, it could really get them by the balls.


But really, I don't think this all means very much. These guys will **** each other over in the end if it's best for them. Agreeing and telling reporters is all part of the game.
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Yeah, we'll see if that lasts.
Yeah, I wouldn't trust UConn once so ever.
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Did Texas A&M get into the SEC? Are they the 13TH Member?
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They applied, and were accepted by the SEC. But Baylor is either suing or threatening to sue A&M for leaving the Big 12.
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I take the Pac-12's statement with a huge grain of salt. Seems odd they would go to all this trouble to then vote to do nothing.

Who knows, though.
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I take the Pac-12's statement with a huge grain of salt. Seems odd they would go to all this trouble to then vote to do nothing.

Who knows, though.
Read a few weeks ago the director was against expansion. But these things are very fickle.
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Yeah, not completely credible at all...but more smoke nonetheless. I don't think Mizzou makes a whole ton of sense for the SEC, but it seems to be out there pretty frequently.
until a conference actually comes out and says they are willing to add a school, all this is nonsense pushed by news outlets looking for hits and hoping to "break" a story by reporting anything and everything. they've realized that people don't hold journalists accountable for ****** work.
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Pac 12 just saved the day.

With A&M and Missouri going to SEC, the Big 12 has to replace 4 teams if they want 12. I honestly think adding TCU, WVU, Cincy, and Louisville from the dying Big East would form a pretty interesting group.

Take UConn and Rutgers to the ACC, and only South Florida is left out of the conferences.

Gives us 16 team ACC, 14 team SEC, 12 in the Big 12, Big 10, and Pac.
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Yeah, we'll see if that lasts.
That wasn't the full quote from what I understand. The USA Today was reporting that 2 or 3 schools still said they are going to do what's best for them in the long run.

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The official also said about four or five of the Big East schools are committed to keeping the league together, but the other two or three need to know where the league is headed before a firm commitment is made.
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It'll be interesting to see what schools want to stick around and the ones who don't. I can't imagine Rutgers and UConn want anything to do with sticking around in whatever is left of the Big East when the dust settles.


But yeah, I'm with BF51, all this "stability" talk just seems like a way of buying a few more weeks/months to think things through while calming down the rampant media speculation. Possible that they really want to keep it a west-coast type conference and stop expanding into the southwest, but we'll have to see. Maybe something went bad with Texas/the Longhorn Network at the negotiating table with the Pac 12.
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Haha so rumor is apparently when reached for a comment, Jim Delany was out golfing and when asked about expanding essentially said, "Hmm we got Nebraska last year. We're good."

I think unless ND falls at Delany's feet and begs to be admitted, that the Big Ten is staying put. Only that would sway him, and then it would be like ND and Mizzou.
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That's what I'm for. I only want to expand if it makes us better not just bigger.

I only want Texas or Notre Dame and one more team to keep it even.
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Rumor is that BYU might get an invite to the Big XII, assuming the A&M thing goes through(which it likely will). That would be a solid addition to their football roster, despite some differences in profile between them and the other schools.

I really think this stuff is far from over. Just might go quiet for now.
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Im hoping the Big 12 gets back to 12 and that should keep it stable for awhile. As soon as the Big 12 gets back and the SEC gets an even number we could be done with major moves for a few years.

Only reason I wanted the Big Ten to expand for years was to get a conference title game. I think 12 team conferences provide a great scheduling formula and having the title game is huge.
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Big 12 is gonna have to get back to 12. They're already discussing it and it was a concession OU made. Now that doesn't mean a whole lot unless OU plans on bolting to the SEC with A&M.

Additions can include BYU, TCU, Louisville, WVU, SMU, Houston, or Air Force. Any of those schools are all viable candidates.
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BYU and TCU make a ton of sense from a regional perspective. It's a weaker conference without Nebraska and A&M, but those are the best options out there. I could see any one of the rest of those getting the last spot as well.
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Absolutely. BYU and TCU make a ton of sense as far as the strength of a football program that can be added. I would also add one of Air Force, Louisville, or WVU.
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This is the 2011 ARWU rankings which are supposedly better than the US News ones.

http://www.shanghairanking.com/ARWU2011.html#

Minnesota at 28
Auburn in the 401-500 range
Cal, top public university in this one and the other poll...looks pretty legit to me.

The Pac 12 needs to get rid of Washington St...bad football program & poor academics. In terms of expansion, Texas would be a good fit academically, but I'm not sure how many other schools really fit the conference culture from an academic standpoint. I know everyone is talking about television markets, but looking at this, Utah & Colorado does make more sense to me now.
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Read a few weeks ago the director was against expansion. But these things are very fickle.
Think it was reported that it the Pac was going to say yes to expansion if Texas didn't balk at the equal revenue sharing.

In the end, Texas having the Big 12 bend over to their every demand will continue to cause a lot of animosity, just look at what happened in the past 3 weeks.

The Big 12 can add teams to get back to 12 teams, but Oklahoma's demands on changes to the Longhorn Network make that league look like it has a long way to go before it stabilizes.

Long term prediction is the Big 12 going under if Texas doesn't make some concessions.
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Can we make the Big Ten change to a name that makes sense tho? I love it staying at 12, but can they change it? Its confusing.
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