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Old 06-15-2010, 12:31 PM    (permalink
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I want to know where this money for the new Big12 TV deal is going to come from.

I also want to know who outside of Texas is going to watch the Bevo Network.....and even inside Texas who is going to care when it's not a live game. I watch the BTN for live OSU games and for replays of classic OSU wins.....that's it. I don't care about the Diving/Tennis/Softball/Baseball/Whatever else they have....or when they show university programming that isn't even related to sports. I'm sure people will watch it for Texas football, basketball, and baseball games..........what about the other 20 hours a day?
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So with this new expansion and Texas,OU,OSU,A&M staying put

The Big 12 will have 10 teams and the Big 10 will have 12 teams and the Pac 10 has 11.
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So apparently the non-Texas/Oklahoma/A&M schools that are sticking with the Big12 have agreed to give the money they would have gotten from Colorado and Nebraska (the penalty for leaving the conference) to Texas/Oklahoma/A&M.

Why would they agree to this? This conference is even more fragile now than it was before Nebraska and Colorado left. They can't possibly think this is going to last.
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So apparently the non-Texas/Oklahoma/A&M schools that are sticking with the Big12 have agreed to give the money they would have gotten from Colorado and Nebraska (the penalty for leaving the conference) to Texas/Oklahoma/A&M.

Why would they agree to this? This conference is even more fragile now than it was before Nebraska and Colorado left. They can't possibly think this is going to last.
Apparently the possibility of homelessness has given them the idea to give Texas everything and then some.

They aren't going to have a Championship game. Who is happiest about that? Texas and Oklahoma.
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This just seems like a temporary settlement for the Big XII.
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This just seems like a temporary settlement for the Big XII.
Exactly. I'll be shocked if this lasts very long at all.
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Texas needs to be stopped.
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Texas needs to be stopped.
I'm almost in favor of the BigTen offering Missouri a spot just to screw these plans up.
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I'm almost in favor of the BigTen offering Missouri a spot just to screw these plans up.
I don't buy the idea that Missouri is off the table. What I do believe is that Jim Delaney, who is brilliant, is willing to wait for Notre Dame to join before bringing Missouri into the fold. It's eventually going to happen one way or the other.
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The Big Ten already got to twelve. There's no reason to expand any further unless it's to add a big time program. I don't want to add a Missouri or a Pittsburgh unless it comes along with Texas or Notre Dame.
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The Big Ten already got to twelve. There's no reason to expand any further unless it's to add a big time program. I don't want to add a Missouri or a Pittsburgh unless it comes along with Texas or Notre Dame.
Meh to Pittsburgh. The Big East can keep the Wannstache
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I don't buy the idea that Missouri is off the table. What I do believe is that Jim Delaney, who is brilliant, is willing to wait for Notre Dame to join before bringing Missouri into the fold. It's eventually going to happen one way or the other.
If they want to offer Missouri, it will have to be before they sign this ridiculous contract. Not that Missouri is some big prize....but screwing up ESPN's/Texas' plans might be worth it :D
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Missouri would be nice program to add, but I doubt the Big Ten wants 13 members. I doubt they'll take anyone other than Notre Dame at this point.
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Well yeah.....I'm not saying they'd stop at Missouri. That would just be to screw the mini Big12/ESPN.
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Why do you want to join the SEC?

It is really going to be any different where you guys finish in the standings haha. Still a bowl game every year though..
1) more money.
2) something to use in the recruiting game, what other Texas school can offer kids a chance to play in the SEC?
3) more prestigious conference.
4) I'm looking at this for more than just football, I am considering the other sports we offer as well.

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The Big Ten already got to twelve. There's no reason to expand any further unless it's to add a big time program. I don't want to add a Missouri or a Pittsburgh unless it comes along with Texas or Notre Dame.
Pitt has amazing academics, which seems to be a trend at all the Big Ten schools.
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This has probably already been said in the past couple pages but the Big XII really panicked on this one.

I cannot for the life of me believe they agreed to give Texas full proceeds from their supposed TV deal.

This will only widen the gap between Texas and the other Big 12 schools. Texas didn't only luck out in this case within the big 12 but they will soon be the favorites to win the BCS every...single...year...
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This has probably already been said in the past couple pages but the Big XII really panicked on this one.

I cannot for the life of me believe they agreed to give Texas full proceeds from their supposed TV deal.

This will only widen the gap between Texas and the other Big 12 schools. Texas didn't only luck out in this case within the big 12 but they will soon be the favorites to win the BCS every...single...year...
This is essencially the deal the Yankees have with MLB. The Yankees revenue share on national TV, but keep the local cable rights.

Its not like the Yankees have bought their way to... Oh.

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That is not the same at all. Each MLB team has their own TV deal.
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Not to mention the AL East, AL Central, etc., let alone the American League, don't independently negotiate contracts or solely benefit from revenue streams.

That would be like if revenues were divided between the NCAA and individual teams, where the conferences were just for name only. There would be no BTN, it would be NCAANetwork and OSUNetwork, TexasNetwork, USCNetwork, etc.
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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...691_pac16.html

Utah invited to Pac 10(12?)
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Uhh, yes & no. Mizzou will be making a move next yr. probably Big 10. I'm thinking this whole drama will continue next offseason, when the US economy improves & programs will be looking fwd. to increased revenues.

Utah will be the prime mover now. The Utes deserve the bigtime, they've come up from obscurity more than any other Mtn. West or WAC team not named Boise St. & thx to Brent for the prediction article link. Update: No Utah announcement yet from ESPN today as we were told would be forthcoming; here's the latest about the Utes as the 12th member of the new Pac 12 with a Friday announcement now :

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5293329

California is the most populous state & a recruting Promised Land for its own schools as well as other neighboring programs, the new Pac 12 membership will boost more recruiting by the Buffaloes & the Utes in the Golden State's population centers as well as the huge CA Juco system.

No about ND going anywhere, independents don't have to share bowl $, & no indy team has a unique national appeal like ND who recruits the whole country.

There was just too much sparsely populated wasteland real estate between Texas & the mega-market of the West Coast TV revenue to make it viable for them, so they stayed put........ for now. Turns out he penalty fees from Colorado & Nebraska departing will be split up only between Texas, Oklahoma & TAMU, they just screwed the Little 5 conference members..... again.

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Espn expects Utah to announce the move by Friday.


Does this mean the MWC loses it's shot at a BCS bid?
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So the Pac-10 seems set (for now) at 12.
The Big 10 seems set (for now) at 12.
Ditto for the SEC and ACC.
Will the Big 12 stay pat at their reformed 10 teams? Or are they looking to add 2 more as well? Does their new reported tv deal mesh with the idea of 2 more teams?
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That's my guess. It'll be a shame for all those teams if they can't get a bid after Boise joined.

Now that the Big 12 is staying around the MWC could get further raided to get the Big 12 back to 12 teams. They're going to have to find a way to keep their current 10 teams from leaving and pick two more up. Replacing Colorado isn't going to be hard, but Nebraska was a strong program for them.
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Oh ****! I really hope Utah doesn't leave the Mountain West. That would really hurt their chances of receiving a BCS bid, would place them in a different conference from BYU for the first time since 1918, tear away one of the founding members of the MWC, take one of the best teams away from that conference, etc...

All the signs point to Utah leaving. Ugh. This sucks.
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