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Old 04-30-2011, 12:36 PM    (permalink
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burton or house?
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Soon to be, yeah.

But in the 4th round...age doesnt matter too much. He would add an interesting dynamic to the receiving core.
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There are no DEs left...

DB, G, or WR here, imo. Perferably Gates.
If we go WR here I don't know how they pass on Salas.

Guard... hell gimme Demarcus Love even though I wanted him in the 5th.

Would like Davon House. No thanks on Brandon Bruton.
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Denver took him. No love lost there. Wasn't a fan.

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Come on, don't get cute just draft House.
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OL, cant really complain
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Who the **** is David Arkin?!
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Arkin... a sleeper I liked, but not till round 6!

Still... gotta like the commitment to the OL.
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Small school kid...I've never seen him play live before.

Hey, it's a G.
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goose had him at #100 - good value

ourlads had him as the best guard available.

this is a solid pick
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Well, I like the fact that it was a Guard. The last player on goose's top 100
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Hey, it's a G.
I watched every OL video clip from the combine... Arkin's feet really stood out. He needs to muscle up that body big time. It's gonna be a while before he's ready, but he's quick and I think if they ask him to pull a lot that he'll be good for it.
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Oh aright sounds like solid value, I just have never heard of him. Can anyone give a quick breakdown on him?
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I like his last name. Sounds cool! :D

If this guy develops right, he could be really good, but you can't put him in now. You just can't. 1 ... 2 years of development at the min.
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Dilfer going ga ga over Arkin. I like that!
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You'd be really hard pressed to find a 2011 starting G in the 4th anyway. haha. Hopefully he turns out to be a good one.
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I also don't see him as a starter either. But that's not as important to me as putting him in the right role in the rotation and getting him involved. Garrett fell in love with him at his team visit. Murray is a high character guy and is so excited to be a Cowboy. I could tell it in his phone call with Garrett. He's ready to do whatever the team wants him to do and do whatever he can to get better. He's a worker.

I'm gonna give Garrett a chance here, before I crush the pick.
Yeah you're right. Put him in a role to succeed and he can be productive then. Look at Brandon Jacobs. People thought he was a 3rd down/goal line back. He eventually took over for Tiki and then started. Is he a sick back? Hell no! We had a very sick OL who could run block so it was a typical plug and play from then on.

I can see that for Murray if you guys get the OL to our 2007 level. I just don't see him as the qualities on their own as a starter quality. Now, that doesn't mean he EVER be a start OR productive. It all depends. I am just saying, look at his skill set without the component of team, plays, personnel, and scheme, and I don't see him as having starter qualities.

That's what I meant by that.
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He does have starting qualities, though. And a lot of "draft experts" have identified him as a potential 3 down back as well...because of things he can do effectively, as I mentioned earlier.
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I don't know anything about Arkin besides what they said on NFL Network, so I can't knock the pick yet. I just hope that they don't do him like they did with Brewster. If he's a sleeper that needs to develop then develop his ass instead of cutting him early.

I really wanted House though. Maybe if he's gone they go after a safety like Sands or McDaniel.
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Yeah you're right. Put him in a role to succeed and he can be productive then. Look at Brandon Jacobs. People thought he was a 3rd down/goal line back. He eventually took over for Tiki and then started. Is he a sick back? Hell no! We had a very sick OL who could run block so it was a typical plug and play from then on.

I can see that for Murray if you guys get the OL to our 2007 level. I just don't see him as the qualities on their own as a starter quality. Now, that doesn't mean he EVER be a start OR productive. It all depends. I am just saying, look at his skill set without the component of team, plays, personnel, and scheme, and I don't see him as having starter qualities.

That's what I meant by that.
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Brewster is still a Cowboy.
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I don't know anything about Arkin besides what they said on NFL Network, so I can't knock the pick yet. I just hope that they don't do him like they did with Brewster. If he's a sleeper that needs to develop then develop his ass instead of cutting him early.

I really wanted House though. Maybe if he's gone they go after a safety like Sands or McDaniel.
Yeah man... for some reason House is slipping. He's a Day 2 talent. Would've liked him, but interior OL help could actually have a bigger impact. I'm liking Arkin, but you are totally right. They need to develop him right. I think Brewster's problem was that he got hurt so early. Taking college tackles and projecting them to guard is something I always like, so this pick sits well with me.
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Brewster is still a Cowboy.
A future look?

LT Tyron Smith
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All i know is we better get some help in FA or were still giving up 40 PPG
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A future look?

LT Tyron Smith
LG David Arkin
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RG Robert Brewster
RT Doug Free
It'd be nice...but probably not gonna happen. It wouldnt be terrible if we could find another Kosier type (just a solid, football player) somewhere via FA down the line.
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