Pre-Training Camp Power Rankings

[Joe M Charlie]

Post your pre training camp power rankings here.

This will be a bit different than my projected standings. I had a few weeks to think about it.

If you want to critisize my rankings then post your own, thanks.

1. New Orleans Saints
2. Dallas Cowboys
3. Indianapolis Colts
4. Green Bay Packers
5. Minnesota Vikings
6. New York Jets
7. Baltimore Ravens
8. Atlanta Falcons
9. San Diego Chargers
10. New England Patriots
11. Cincinnatti Bengals
12. Houston Texans
13. San Francisco 49ers
14. Pittsburgh Steelers
15. New York Giants
16. Philadelphia Eagles
17. Washington Redskins
18. Chicago Bears
19. Tennessee Titans
20. Denver Broncos
21. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
22. Detroit Lions
23. Miami Dolphins
24. Seattle Seahawks
25. Arizona Cardinals
26. Kansas City Chiefs
27. Oakland Raiders
28. Carolina Panthers
29. Jacksonville Jaguars
30. St. Louis Rams
31. Buffalo Bills
32. Cleveland Browns

[CLong4Heisman]

Originally Posted by Joe M Charlie

Post your pre training camp power rankings here.

This will be a bit different than my projected standings. I had a few weeks to think about it.

If you want to critisize my rankings then post your own, thanks.

1. New Orleans Saints
2. Dallas Cowboys
3. Indianapolis Colts
4. Green Bay Packers
5. Minnesota Vikings
6. New York Jets
7. Baltimore Ravens
8. Atlanta Falcons
9. San Diego Chargers
10. New England Patriots
11. Cincinnatti Bengals
12. Houston Texans
13. San Francisco 49ers
14. Pittsburgh Steelers
15. New York Giants
16. Philadelphia Eagles
17. Washington Redskins
18. Chicago Bears
19. Tennessee Titans
20. Denver Broncos
21. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
22. Detroit Lions
23. Miami Dolphins
24. Seattle Seahawks
25. Arizona Cardinals
26. Kansas City Chiefs
27. Oakland Raiders
28. Carolina Panthers
29. Jacksonville Jaguars
30. St. Louis Rams
31. Buffalo Bills
32. Cleveland Browns

Can we criticize your spelling instead?

[Bob Sanders Dreadlock]

1 Indianapolis Colts
2 Green Bay Packers
3 Baltimore Ravens
4 Dallas Cowgirls
5 Atlanta Falcons
6 Houston Texans
7 Minnesota Vikings
8 New York Giants
9 Cincinnati Bengals
10 New York Jets
11 San Francisco 49ers
12 San Diego Chargers
13 New Orleans Saints
14 New England Patriots
15 Pittsburgh Steelers
16 Oakland Raiders
17 Tennessee Titans
18 Washington Redskins
19 Philadelphia Eagles
20 Carolina Panthers
21 Denver Broncos
22 Miami Dolphins
23 Detroit Lions
24 Arizona Cardinals
25 Jacksonville Jaguars
26 Kansas City Chiefs
27 Seattle Seahawks
28 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
29 Chicago Bears
30 Cleveland Browns
31 Buffalo Bills
32 St. Louis Rams

[zachsaints52]

Originally Posted by Bob Sanders Dreadlock

13 New Orleans Saints

Wow... so the Saints get better, yet fall all the way to 13th.

[Brent]

man, the 49ers are getting overrated at this point. QB play is kind of a big deal.

[Bob Sanders Dreadlock]

Originally Posted by Brent

man, the 49ers are getting overrated at this point. QB play is kind of a big deal.

Upgrades on your offensive line, a full training camp for Beast Tree, and smith made decent strides last season. I see the rest of the NFC west being total crap.

[BlindSite]

Overall Power Rankings are kind of ******** so I'll just do it by division:

AFC East:
1. Dolphins 1a. Jets
3. Patriots
4. Bills

AFC North:
1. Ravens
2. Pittsburgh
3. Cincinatti
4. Cleveland

AFC South:
1. Indianapolis
2. Houston
3. Tennessee
4. Jacksonville

AFC West:
1. San Diego
2. Kansas City
3. Denver
4. Oakland

NFC East:
1. Dallas
2. Philly
3. New York
4. Washington

NFC North:
1. Packers
2. Vikings
3. Lions
4. Chicago

NFC West:
1. Arizona
2. 49ers
3. Seattle
4. St Louis

NFC South
1. New Orleans
2. Carolina
3. Atlanta
4. Tampa

[CC.SD]

Both of the lists in this thread so far are pretty bad IMO.

[zachsaints52]

Top 5:
1. Saints
2. Ravens
3. Jets
4. Colts
5. Cowboys/Chargers

[GB12]

1. Indianapolis Colts
2. New Orleans Saints
3. Dallas Cowboys
4. Green Bay Packers
5. Baltimore Ravens
6. Minnesota Vikings
7. San Diego Chargers
8. New England Patriots
9. Atlanta Falcons
10. Miami Dolphins
11. New York Jets
12. Arizona Cardinals
13. Houston Texans
14. Cincinnati Bengals
15. Carolina Panthers
16. Pittsburgh Steelers
17. San Francisco 49ers
18. New York Giants
19. Tennessee Titans
20. Oakland Raiders
21. Chicago Bears
22. Washington Redskins
23. Philadelphia Eagles
24. Detroit Lions
25. Jacksonville Jaguars
26. Denver Broncos
27. Cleveland Browns
28. Kansas City Chiefs
29. Seattle Seahawks
30. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
31. Buffalo Bills
32. St. Louis Rams

[Bob Sanders Dreadlock]

Originally Posted by CC.SD

Both of the lists in this thread so far are pretty bad IMO.

I applaud your effort on compiling a list. The most part i tried to mix them up. An someone seems to be bitter there team is not ranked very high.

[zachsaints52]

I don't see what the Colts did this offseason to make you think they will be #1, much less #1 in the AFC. They got Hughes and Angerer but both of them are bakcups. You lose Lilja and now your probably starting a rookie or Andy Alleman? Is Hayden gonna come back from his injury? And still Addai is your number one runner, behind a line whose probably not better then last years.

[Paranoidmoonduck]

Originally Posted by Bob Sanders Dreadlock

Upgrades on your offensive line, a full training camp for Beast Tree, and smith made decent strides last season. I see the rest of the NFC west being total crap.

That may justify predicting the Niners winning the division, but it doesn't justify rating them high in power rankings. Bad competition doesn't actually make a team better.

[Bob Sanders Dreadlock]

Originally Posted by zachsaints52

I don't see what the Colts did this offseason to make you think they will be #1, much less #1 in the AFC. They got Hughes and Angerer but both of them are bakcups. You lose Lilja and now your probably starting a rookie or Andy Alleman? Is Hayden gonna come back from his injury? And still Addai is your number one runner, behind a line whose probably not better then last years.

What is with the personal vendetta against the colts? Why not put them at the top? They've only been in the playoffs for 7 straight years i think. The saints had a 3 year playoff drought between appearances. An with the way the NFC south works out this year i wouldn't be surprised if they went 8-8 an missed the playoffs.

[Bob Sanders Dreadlock]

Originally Posted by Paranoidmoonduck

That may justify predicting the Niners winning the division, but it doesn't justify rating them high in power rankings. Bad competition doesn't actually make a team better.

If Alex Smith continues his progression from last season they could be a very powerful offense.

[zachsaints52]

Originally Posted by Bob Sanders Dreadlock

What is with the personal vendetta against the colts? Why not put them at the top? They've only been in the playoffs for 7 straight years i think. The saints had a 3 year playoff drought between appearances. An with the way the NFC south works out this year i wouldn't be surprised if they went 8-8 an missed the playoffs.

Vendetta? I didn't say they was bad by any means. Im just saying they didn't help their team out that much this year, like the other teams did. Again, it is for the reasons I mentioned before. OL still sucks, everyone gotten a year older, key players have injuries (Gonzo, Hayden, Sanders) who knows how they will be when they come back? While another AFC like the Ravens got a Pro Bowl WR, another WR in Stallworth, a pass rusher to compliment Suggs, a behemoth at NT to spell Gregg since he is older, and they kept their main guys in tact.

And your gonna say the Saints will be bad because its "how the NFC South works" thats the best you can do? Come on man.

[Bob Sanders Dreadlock]

Originally Posted by zachsaints52

Vendetta? I didn't say they was bad by any means. Im just saying they didn't help their team out that much this year, like the other teams did. Again, it is for the reasons I mentioned before. OL still sucks, everyone gotten a year older, key players have injuries (Gonzo, Hayden, Sanders) who knows how they will be when they come back? While another AFC like the Ravens got a Pro Bowl WR, another WR in Stallworth, a pass rusher to compliment Suggs, a behemoth at NT to spell Gregg since he is older, and they kept their main guys in tact.

And your gonna say the Saints will be bad because its "how the NFC South works" thats the best you can do? Come on man.

Well when the division has not had a repeat winner ya it makes sense. I didn't feel the need to break down how Moore is a better QB than Delhomme and the falcons will have a healthy Ryan and Turner. Just for fun ill throw out the madden curse. No reason to believe the saints will have back to back good seasons. The colts o-line still sucks it has not stopped them, Gonzo and Sanders has not stopped them(we still made the super bowl with those against us).

[PACKmanN]

Originally Posted by zachsaints52

Wow... so the Saints get better, yet fall all the way to 13th.

losing 2 of your 4 starters on the DL and the best guy in the Superbowl, LT, and still having a weak LB core isn't acutally getting better.

[jrdrylie]

1. Indianapolis Colts
2. Green Bay Packers
3. New Orleans Saints
4. New England Patriots
5. Baltimore Ravens
6. Dallas Cowboys
7. Houston Texans
8. New York Jets
9. San Diego Chargers
10. Cincinnati Bengals
11. Minnesota Vikings
12. Washington Redskins
13. Chicago Bears
14. Atlanta Falcons
15. Miami Dolphins
16. New York Giants
17. Tennessee Titans
18. Philadelphia Eagles
19. Arizona Cardinals
20. San Francisco 49ers
21. Pittsburgh Steelers
22. Detroit Lions
23. Oakland Raiders
24. Carolina Panthers
25. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
26. Seattle Seahawks
27. Kansas City Chiefs
28. Denver Broncos
29. Jacksonville Jaguars
30. Buffalo Bills
31. Cleveland Browns
32. St. Louis Rams

[LonghornsLegend]

Originally Posted by Paranoidmoonduck

That may justify predicting the Niners winning the division, but it doesn't justify rating them high in power rankings. Bad competition doesn't actually make a team better.

I think they are legit. They took the Vikes down to the wire and took a miracle play from Favre to beat them, and that was a team who should have been in the SB. They were beating the Colts I think by 10 points late in the 4th quarter, and held them to 3 points nearly the entire game and they were in the SB. They beat the Cardinals ass on national television and they were a playoff team.


I think the Niners have made enough improvements to make them legit. Alex Smith is going to be improved, even if you argue how much, and pretty much everything else improved on the team.



They lost a number of close games last year, and took some of the leagues best teams in the league down to the wire, I don't know why it's so hard to fathom to people that they are a legit team or will be much better.

[vidae]

Originally Posted by CC.SD

Both of the lists in this thread so far are pretty bad IMO.

Don't be mad that the Chiefs are CREEPIN UP ON THE AFC WEST!

[Job]

32. Seattle Seahawks
31. Kansas City Chiefs
30. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
29. Buffalo Bills
28. Jacksonville Jaguars
27. St. Louis Rams
26. Chicago Bears
25. Cleveland Browns
24. Oakland Raiders
23. Washington Redskins
22. Philadelphia Eagles
21. Tennessee Titans
20. Pittsburgh Steelers
19. Detroit Lions
18. Carolina Panthers
17. Houston Texans
16. Denver Broncos
15. Miami Dolphins
14. Arizona Cardinals
13. Atlanta Falcons
12. San Francisco 49ers
11. New England Patriots
10. New York Jets
9. Cincinnati Bengals
8. New York Giants
7. Baltimore Ravens
6. Minnesota Vikings
5. Green Bay Packers
4. Dallas Cowboys
3. San Diego Chargers
2. New Orleans Saints
1. Indianapolis Colts

Disclaimer : This list is full of bias and severely lacks logic.

[vikes_28]

I don't even really see what the point of making power rankings BEFORE the season is for. Aside from last year and how the teams drafted (neither of which tell you much, cause you don't know how the rookies are going to do, and how teams did last year have nothing to do with how they WILL do), really there is nothing to base your rankings off of. The only thing that power rankings this early mean is "hey look at me, i have an opinion."

[CC.SD]

Originally Posted by Bob Sanders Dreadlock

I applaud your effort on compiling a list. The most part i tried to mix them up. An someone seems to be bitter there team is not ranked very high.

Why would you assume I'm bitter, little insecure. You kind of just made a bad list. I mean if you like I could take it apart piece by piece, but now you're talking about vendettas and pretending Alex Smith's progression makes the 9ers better than the SB Champ Saints so.............

Originally Posted by vidae

Don't be mad that the Chiefs are CREEPIN UP ON THE AFC WEST!

you know I love the Chiefs. <3 <3 vidae

[eeth]

Man, the Lions are getting a lot of love which is cool by me, but maybe a little too much