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Old 08-21-2010, 01:36 PM    (permalink
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The North County Times reports Jackson and left tackle Marcus McNeill were officially placed on the roster exempt list on Friday night.

By rule, both players will now have to serve a three-game suspension after they sign.

Scott Bair writes that Jackson would have to serve this absence with his new team if he was traded. (We're working to confirm the particulars here, which seem odd.) Jackson was also suspended three games by the league for violating the substance abuse policy.
This has really turned in to a mess.

Edit: A Mod can merge this thread with the other Jackson thread I wasn't thinking. :(
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It sounds like they are trying to get rid of Jackson anyway, allowing Seattle to talk to him. I don't know the details but why would they force a 3 game suspension on him and lower his trade value, when other teams are obviously interested? Whatever offer is on the table now is only getting worse with a suspension and the season getting closer.

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Jackson is one DUI away from being suspended the whole nfl year.

the chargers dont wanna give him top 5 wr money. Mcneill i believe will get a long term deal
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It sounds like they are trying to get rid of Jackson anyway, allowing Seattle to talk to him. I don't know the details but why would they force a 3 game suspension on him and lower his trade value, when other teams are obviously interested? Whatever offer is on the table now is only getting worse with a suspension and the season getting closer.

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This would be 3 games on top of his 3 games for his DUI's.
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Yeah 6 is twice as bad as 3 though...
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His trade value has dropped big time but at the same time I don't see him ever playing for SD again so...
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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...alked-jackson/

haha he thinks he deserves brandon marshall money.

is he smoking the same stuff shawne merriman was smoking?

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Sources: Tra Thomas is planning to retire

He was not great or anything but SD depth at LT is paper thin.
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He was not great or anything but SD depth at LT is paper thin.
he was done last year with the jags.

didnt expect anything from him except a body INCASE of a injury.

hurts though from a depth standpoint
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For ****'s sake, sign Jackson, he is on my fantasy team!
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I was thinking Vjax would be a sleeper on my money league that i draft in today, but no chance anymore after being done for 6 games.
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This is bad for both SD and VJax. They both benefit mutually from their relationship. Jax is perfect for that system and for Rivers, so SD benefits bc he's the perfect WR for Rivers, and Jax benefits bc he is perfect for that system and won't play as well in a different system.

Neither party benefits from a break up between the two.
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Congrats AJ Smith, you won another pissing contest. Your team is gonna suck. I hate this guy so much.
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This is bad for both SD and VJax. They both benefit mutually from their relationship. Jax is perfect for that system and for Rivers, so SD benefits bc he's the perfect WR for Rivers, and Jax benefits bc he is perfect for that system and won't play as well in a different system.

Neither party benefits from a break up between the two.
The rest of the AFC West benefits so I'm for it. :)
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This would be 3 games on top of his 3 games for his DUI's.
Actually, I think PFT later posted that if he signs by week 1, he can serve them concurrently or something like that.
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Well, if he signs before week 1 it won't be with SD that ship has sailed.
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Right, but it won't hurt his trade value any more than it's already had done to it.
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Can't say I'm too upset that neither will be playing week 1 at Arrowhead on MNF. Nope, can't say I'd be upset at all.

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Jackson is a beneficiary of the scheme. I have a feeling Naane and Floyd do just fine and the Chargers laugh all the way to the bank.
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Jackson is a beneficiary of the scheme. I have a feeling Naane and Floyd do just fine and the Chargers laugh all the way to the bank.
I said it after seeing Naane play the Bears last week that he's going to make people forget Jackson.

McNeil on the other hand is going to be sorely missed I feel....especially with their lack of depth.
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McNeil's been mediocre for 2 years, and could be easily replaced if the Chargers had any depth. People are seriously overrating McNeil and underrating Jackson in this whole ordeal.
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Well, they don't have any depth there and even someone mediocre would be nice to have.

And as for Jackson, he has great size and down the field ability and would make a good #1 for a lot of teams, but the Chargers don't need him to succeed as much as they need McNeil imo. If Jackson isn't there...no big deal, they have Gates and Floyd and I think Naane will step in and fill that hole just fine. But not having even a decent LT is going to hurt them.
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Without Jackson, their core goes from near elite to mediocre, as he was a large reason for Floyd's production last season when he began to command double teams.
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I think that Jackson was always 2nd fiddle to Gates.
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Well, they don't have any depth there and even someone mediocre would be nice to have.

And as for Jackson, he has great size and down the field ability and would make a good #1 for a lot of teams, but the Chargers don't need him to succeed as much as they need McNeil imo. If Jackson isn't there...no big deal, they have Gates and Floyd and I think Naane will step in and fill that hole just fine. But not having even a decent LT is going to hurt them.
Actually McNeill's replacement, Brandyn Dombrowski, has looked pretty good so far. He's actually a better run blocker than McNeill at this time, and has looked good in pass protection. The latter is the biggest concern, but he's done alright going up against Peppers and Ware. The biggest issue is depth at now at that tackle position with Tra retiring so if we have injuries like we did last year on the oline, then it's going to be bad.
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