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Default Great article about the behind the scenes of an NFL Agent

Some very touchy (and illegal) things here.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...html?eref=sihp

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Very good read! I could never be agent and do stuff I knew was wrong. Hence I'd probably not make a very good one. I feel bad for the guy, especially what Ryan Leaf did to him.
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That was a very good read. I have been looking into the sports industry for quite some time now, and for a time was thinking of agenting, but it isn't happening, especially after reading this.
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That was a very good read. I have been looking into the sports industry for quite some time now, and for a time was thinking of agenting, but it isn't happening, especially after reading this.
Yeah, it's certainly not as glamourous as Jerry McGwire or Drew Rosenhaus lead us to believe.

I think a guy needs a case of Tums or Prevacid if in this business. And no conscience would help too.

Santonio Holmes denies it all, LOL. Dude was probably stoned his whole college career, can't remember anything.
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It's a dirty business.

Interesting to see if Kiper loses any credibility bc of this article.
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It's a dirty business.

Interesting to see if Kiper loses any credibility bc of this article.
ESPN is already looking into it, I just read on twitter.
McShay may take on a more prominent role sooner than later.....
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Interesting to see if Kiper loses any credibility bc of this article.
Did you read the responses at the end? Kiper addresses it directly.

Definitely a good read, very interesting stuff.
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That Ogden part made me laugh too.

The truth is that being an agent is a tough dirty business.
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Sure, that's what Kiper says.
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Their relationship could present an ethical dilemma for the all-sports network.

"We just learned of the story today and are looking into it," ESPN said in a statement.


Agent Josh Luchs references Wichard allegedly having Kiper call during a meeting with Stanford defensive tackle Willie Howard.

"Gary and I were talking to Willie in Gary's office when Gary's phone rang, and he put it on speakerphone," Luchs wrote. "'Viper, how are you?' Gary said. That's what he called Mel, Viper or Vipe. 'Viper, I'm sitting here with the best defensive lineman in college football. Do you know who that is?' You must be with Willie Howard,' Mel said."
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If this article means I have to listen to McShay even more then I'll be very upset.
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It's leading us to more NFL Network coverage perhaps....
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Well I don't get NFL Network so that's a problem for me.
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Mel Kiper is damn near untouchable. He is the Godfather of the NFL Draft and he's the only reason it is what it is today. His name being brought up was the only real surprise.

Great read though. Nothing too surprising. Santonio Holmes denying some illegal activities?!?!?!?! Shocker!!
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Key Johnson not accepting the money but when he got to the NFL man was he crazzzy.
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Nothing's gonna happen with Kiper. Whether you like him or not, he's the face of the NFL Draft. ESPN "looking into it" basically means, "Looking into it and then swiftly sweeping it under the rug." Guy's been there forever and is pretty valuable to them come offseason.
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I'd rather be an agent than a scout. And a superagent instead of a GM.
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I agree. But you never know with corporate sometimes.

Anyone here ever hear of Fred Edelstein?
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Really? Being an agent is basically like salesman...something I just can't do. I worked for my school's phonathon for one day, had nightmares, and quit the next day.

The money may not be as good but I'd much rather be a scout.
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Agreed on the first but not the second. I just couldn't pass up the chance to actually GM a team and try and see what I could build.
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Agreed on the first but not the second. I just couldn't pass up the chance to actually GM a team and try and see what I could build.
I think being GM would be a much better and more enjoying job than being a superagent. But I think the path to being a superagent would be much, much more enjoyable than the path to being a GM.

Let's face it, though, Mel Kiper has the best job in the business. He's paid handsomely, he's his own brand, he pretty much works for himself, and nobody really cares about his mistakes because people are more focused on the next year's draft.
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I think being GM would be a much better and more enjoying job than being a superagent. But I think the path to being a superagent would be much, much more enjoyable than the path to being a GM.

Let's face it, though, Mel Kiper has the best job in the business. He's paid handsomely, he's his own brand, he pretty much works for himself, and nobody really cares about his mistakes because people are more focused on the next year's draft.
I'll agree with that first paragraph, as for Mel's job I wouldn't like it, all he can do is study players, he doesn't actually create anything or get to test his knowledge.
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I think being GM would be a much better and more enjoying job than being a superagent. But I think the path to being a superagent would be much, much more enjoyable than the path to being a GM.

Let's face it, though, Mel Kiper has the best job in the business. He's paid handsomely, he's his own brand, he pretty much works for himself, and nobody really cares about his mistakes because people are more focused on the next year's draft.
I'd rather be a position coach.
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Not surprised at all by all of this, though i love these kinda stories. Wish there was more of em similar to this one. But yeah, anyone who is shocked at the stuff that's said in the article is really naive. Every single program out there has people funneling money to their players. Agents, alumni, boosters, they're all paying kids. Texas is one of the cleanest programs out there, and a buddy of mine once hooked up with Jermichael Finley's ex girlfriend in Austin. She told him boosters would write checks in her name to cash and give to j-mike.
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