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Old 10-23-2010, 11:58 AM    (permalink
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Oher hasn't looked great thus far at LT, right now (when healthy) Gaither is definitely better on the left side. I'd rather get Oher as much time at LT as possible though, and it's not like we have any other options.
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yea I said from day 1 we should have kept Gaither at LT and Oher at RT. IDK why we made the switch. Now its all down hill from there.

We have a elite Oline as it is, with Gaither at LT and Oher at RT it would have been better.
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So out of ten, how does Oher look this year?
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I don't think this hurts Gaither in FA. He's shown he can be an elite LT and unlike McNeil he doesn't have a serious degenerative back condition. Then you add the weak draft class at LT and the dearth of quality OL play in the NFL and his value only goes up. This might mean that his contract has less guaranteed money, but he'll still get a massive contract from some team.

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I'd rather we sign Kalil than Gaither even if the money was equal. Given that I think Kalil would be cheaper I'd definitely much rather see us go after him. Then we add Love, Sherrod or Soldier in the first and our OL is in a good situation.
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I don't think this hurts Gaither in FA. He's shown he can be an elite LT and unlike McNeil he doesn't have a serious degenerative back condition. Then you add the weak draft class at LT and the dearth of quality OL play in the NFL and his value only goes up. This might mean that his contract has less guaranteed money, but he'll still get a massive contract from some team.



I'd rather we sign Kalil than Gaither even if the money was equal. Given that I think Kalil would be cheaper I'd definitely much rather see us go after him. Then we add Love, Sherrod or Soldier in the first and our OL is in a good situation.
I don't see anyway Carolina lets Kalil leave
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Yeah, probably not, but i wouldn't be surprised if they did with a new regime coming in to rebuild that team. If we hit him with a massive contract right at the start of FA, provided Carolina lets him get to FA, I actually think there's a solid chance of Kalil moving on just like I think DeAngelo might move on simply because you have to question how much a RB and C are worth a team that's in the middle of a rebuild.
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I don't think this hurts Gaither in FA. He's shown he can be an elite LT and unlike McNeil he doesn't have a serious degenerative back condition. Then you add the weak draft class at LT and the dearth of quality OL play in the NFL and his value only goes up. This might mean that his contract has less guaranteed money, but he'll still get a massive contract from some team.



I'd rather we sign Kalil than Gaither even if the money was equal. Given that I think Kalil would be cheaper I'd definitely much rather see us go after him. Then we add Love, Sherrod or Soldier in the first and our OL is in a good situation.
There's no way in hell Carolina lets Khalil go.

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Yeah, probably not, but i wouldn't be surprised if they did with a new regime coming in to rebuild that team. If we hit him with a massive contract right at the start of FA, provided Carolina lets him get to FA, I actually think there's a solid chance of Kalil moving on just like I think DeAngelo might move on simply because you have to question how much a RB and C are worth a team that's in the middle of a rebuild.
Any new regime would love to have a great Center. They are not letting him go.
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So you're saying that we need a left tackle who never gives up a sack or hit on the quarterback? Pretty sure those don't exist. Who is to say that Jared Gaither or Michael Oher or Joe Thomas or Jake Long also wouldn't have given up a similar hit on the quarterback? According to Football Outsiders, the Lions rank 3rd in the NFL in pass protection and that is with turnstiles at right guard and right tackle. Clearly, the left side of the line must be doing something right.
Ok so Backus has played great this year. When do you think you should address LT, just curious? It's not like Gaither would cost you a draft pick, it's not like you have a ton of excellent players who need re-signed in the next year to two, and it's not like franchise LT's are just popping up in every draft outside of the top 10(which I think Detroit is slowly moving towards picking on the outside of).


So when would be a good time to address LT? Also how long do you expect Backus to play this well?
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So out of ten, how does Oher look this year?
If you ask a Patriots fan, he won't get a very good rating. He had like 5 penalties (holding and offsides) and gave up quite a few pressures and sacks to (rookie) Jermaine Cunningham.
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Yeah, Jermaine Cunnningham was beating him like a wet towel all day long. Oher just couldn't block him.
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Sometimes I really wonder if the pressure of the stupid blindside movie had the coaching staff want to put Oher at LT. From day 1 everyone on the board pretty much agreed that Gaither doesnt have that nasty attitude to play RT, while Oher had the perfect attitude for it.

So when Gaither missed a OTA because of his foot he pretty much got attacked by every member of the media saying he is just pissed abouting the position change. But the media should know better, a bad toe ended John Ogdens career. Who gives a **** if a guy misses a OTA, Gaither missed time in the season because of his foot. So its a legit injury

He lost 30 pounds in the off season so he obviously cares about his health to play in the season. He didnt want all that weight on his foot. Usually when a slacker shows up w/ a weight issue he gained 30 pounds not lost 30.

I think Gaither got his feelings hurt w/ all this media attacking him.

Call me crazy but I think that movie may play a role in this whole mess.
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He lost 30 pounds in the off season so he obviously cares about his health to play in the season. He didnt want all that weight on his foot. Usually when a slacker shows up w/ a weight issue he gained 30 pounds not lost 30.
you really think he lost 30 lbs to take pressure off his foot? When he wants to play LT, and his agent is Rosenhaus? Knowing full well he cant play the RT position (and found out not the LT either) at 310 lbs?

Gaither is full of it. He and Rosenhaus concocted this grand plan, and he ended up hurting his back because he was seriously underweight and out of shape, getting bullrushed in camp.
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Omg Thank you! I swear I kept thinking this for the longest time lol
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you really think he lost 30 lbs to take pressure off his foot? When he wants to play LT, and his agent is Rosenhaus? Knowing full well he cant play the RT position (and found out not the LT either) at 310 lbs?

Gaither is full of it. He and Rosenhaus concocted this grand plan, and he ended up hurting his back because he was seriously underweight and out of shape, getting bullrushed in camp.

I have not seen one article w/ any evidence that Gaither was a slacker. Just a bunch of "The Ravens hate Gaither work ethic so look for Oher to be the LT of the future. Gaither won't be re signed" stuff.
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I don't think the Ravens were ever going to resign Gaither. When Oher took over at LT the writing was on the wall for Gaither. If they perform comparably, I'll take Oher for a few more years on a rookie contract over Gaither on some huge longterm deal. Team's can't resign every one, its a numbers game and he just isn't one of the pressing needs.
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I have not seen one article w/ any evidence that Gaither was a slacker. Just a bunch of "The Ravens hate Gaither work ethic so look for Oher to be the LT of the future. Gaither won't be re signed" stuff.
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I don't think the Ravens were ever going to resign Gaither. When Oher took over at LT the writing was on the wall for Gaither. If they perform comparably, I'll take Oher for a few more years on a rookie contract over Gaither on some huge longterm deal. Team's can't resign every one, its a numbers game and he just isn't one of the pressing needs.
Yea, they will probably focus on locking up Ngata and Yanda this offseason, as well as a few others. There are a lot of guys coming due for them.
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