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Old 11-22-2009, 04:23 PM    (permalink
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I'm going to ask for a new vikings jersey for christmas. Who should I get out of these:

Harvin
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Allen

I want an away jersey, since I already have a home AP jersey
I would get a Harvin or Rice jersey, then get a "Mullet Militia" shirt from Jared Allens' website.

Yessir!
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I would get a Harvin or Rice jersey, then get a "Mullet Militia" shirt from Jared Allens' website.

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They sell the Jared Allen shirts on Vikings.com shop now.

There is a place were I live that can take names off the back of replica jerseys and put a new name on and i was considering buying a Gus jersey and putting Harvin on it.
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Here's my response to the people that criticize the extension for Childress. There is a logical flaw in your argument that he does not deserve it. You say "Yes, he improved the record every year but only this year they're doing great but its because of Favre." Favre played last year as well, went 8-8 or something like that, correct? Favre then gets introduced to a new team, starts out 9-1, correct? So if we're going to put this success all on Favre, then what gives last year with the Jets? Your assumption is that the success of this team is SOLEY based on Brett Favre. Wouldn't that then translate ot success last year as well, if only Favre is responsible?

The fact of the matter is that this success is a two way street.

Childress has built an extremely good football team from top to bottom that was simply a QB away from being capable of winning a championship. Brett Favre was still a great quarterback that was simply a good football team away from still being capable of winning a championship. Childress has to get some of the credit for the Vikings being where they were pre-Favre, only one position away from being a dominant team.

You take any good team and coach and take away effective QB play and you get a mediocre team. The Patriots last year for example, lost their franchise quarterback and ended with the same 10-6 record as the Vikings if I'm not mistaken. Bill Bellichek was never criticized for being an in-effective coach. Good coaches still NEED great QBs to succeed. I'll give Childress the benefit of the doubt. Considering he was able to successfully get us into the playoffs last year with Gus and TJax starting at Quarterback is worthy of some praise.
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Here's my response to the people that criticize the extension for Childress. There is a logical flaw in your argument that he does not deserve it. You say "Yes, he improved the record every year but only this year they're doing great but its because of Favre." Favre played last year as well, went 8-8 or something like that, correct? Favre then gets introduced to a new team, starts out 9-1, correct? So if we're going to put this success all on Favre, then what gives last year with the Jets? Your assumption is that the success of this team is SOLEY based on Brett Favre. Wouldn't that then translate ot success last year as well, if only Favre is responsible?

The fact of the matter is that this success is a two way street.

Childress has built an extremely good football team from top to bottom that was simply a QB away from being capable of winning a championship. Brett Favre was still a great quarterback that was simply a good football team away from still being capable of winning a championship. Childress has to get some of the credit for the Vikings being where they were pre-Favre, only one position away from being a dominant team.

You take any good team and coach and take away effective QB play and you get a mediocre team. The Patriots last year for example, lost their franchise quarterback and ended with the same 10-6 record as the Vikings if I'm not mistaken. Bill Bellichek was never criticized for being an in-effective coach. Good coaches still NEED great QBs to succeed. I'll give Childress the benefit of the doubt. Considering he was able to successfully get us into the playoffs last year with Gus and TJax starting at Quarterback is worthy of some praise.

Who's saying it's all Favre? It's the overall talent on the team.
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Belechick wasn't criticized because he's won 3 Super Bowls, and went 10-6 with a scrap heap QB, not one he handpicked as being their future at the position (Jackson).
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Who's saying it's all Favre? It's the overall talent on the team.
Completely agree, but the one thing that has changed was Brett Favre (Yes, I know Harvin too) and people prior to this posting consistently said Chilly didn't deserve the extension because he hasn't proven anything until Favre got there. I make the argument that even the coaches that are considered the best only have average seasons with average quarterbacks (Bill B last year with Cassell). Now that Childress is proving that he, indeed, can win even if that is with a good quarterback you can't use that as a knock against him. Every team needs solid if not spectacular QB play if they want to contend for championships.
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Belechick wasn't criticized because he's won 3 Super Bowls, and went 10-6 with a scrap heap QB, not one he handpicked as being their future at the position (Jackson).

BB needs Brady and BB got lucky as hell with Brady. There is no way you draft a QB in the 6th round and have any realistic expectaiton that he's going to turn out to be the future of your team and your coaching career. Without Brady BB would have proabably been fired from NE just like he was fired in Cleveland.
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Belechick wasn't criticized because he's won 3 Super Bowls, and went 10-6 with a scrap heap QB, not one he handpicked as being their future at the position (Jackson).

He won 3 Super Bowls WITH a Hall of Fame QB. Based on the argument that Childress doesn't deserve an extension because it took Brett Favre to get him to win games, then coaches like Bellicheck shouldn't either because last year showed that he can't win championships without the HOF QB either.

And if you then say "But Childress drafted Jackson to be the QB of the future! He's an idiot, no extension!" That seems a little harsh to me. So a 2nd round draft pick didn't turn out, it isn't the only time that's happened. Or even worse, he picked what was supposed to be the future of the organization, and it ended up in failure. Again, this isn't the only time this has happened either. The fact that he's been able to overcome this and still lead this team to the playoffs with patchwork QB play is testament to the quality of the team he has built around him.
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Completely agree, but the one thing that has changed was Brett Favre (Yes, I know Harvin too) and people prior to this posting consistently said Chilly didn't deserve the extension because he hasn't proven anything until Favre got there. I make the argument that even the coaches that are considered the best only have average seasons with average quarterbacks (Bill B last year with Cassell). Now that Childress is proving that he, indeed, can win even if that is with a good quarterback you can't use that as a knock against him. Every team needs solid if not spectacular QB play if they want to contend for championships.
We aren't saying Childress was a bad scouting guy. We never said that. His terrible play-calling is his downfall, that's what will get the Vikings in trouble down the road. He is too selfish to let Bevell call the shots. Childress will be the reason we lose the NFCCG if that's where we make it.
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We aren't saying Childress was a bad scouting guy. We never said that. His terrible play-calling is his downfall, that's what will get the Vikings in trouble down the road. He is too selfish to let Bevell call the shots. Childress will be the reason we lose the NFCCG if that's where we make it.
Except Bevell has been calling plays the entire season. Childress helps with the gameplanning, he doesn't call the plays. He gives suggestions.
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I was just about to say that. Let's settle with the Chilly bashing and let this play out. There are plenty of organizations that would kill to be in the position we are in.
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Except Bevell has been calling plays the entire season. Childress helps with the gameplanning, he doesn't call the plays. He gives suggestions.
I was under the impression that he made the play-calls.
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The Vikings game against the Cardinals was moved to Sunday Night December 6th.

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Anyone else been impressed with Jimmy Kennedy's work within the rotation? He'll probably never be what they thought he was coming out of Penn State, but he could be a big part of the rotation for the future, especially possibly filling in for Big Pat down the road.
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I agree on the Jimmy Kennedy point. the d-line has looked great throughout each game.

Yesterday i would have liked to have seen Favre hit the bench earlier than he did. When we have the game in hand heading into the 4th, Jackson should be out there gaining experience & Favre should be resting his 40 year old body.

I'm not really complaining, but I just think that the Vikes should be doing everything to preserve our mealticket for the rest of the season/post-season. Just my 2 cents.
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I agree on the Jimmy Kennedy point. the d-line has looked great throughout each game.

Yesterday i would have liked to have seen Favre hit the bench earlier than he did. When we have the game in hand heading into the 4th, Jackson should be out there gaining experience & Favre should be resting his 40 year old body.

I'm not really complaining, but I just think that the Vikes should be doing everything to preserve our mealticket for the rest of the season/post-season. Just my 2 cents.
20 point lead to start the 4th isn't enough to take Favre out, even with how bad the Bears played. I'm a big believer in the 4 score lead and then get him out of there. 3 scores is a touchdown and turnover away from being back in the game.
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It figures that once we get really good the Saints seem unstoppable.
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