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Old 11-17-2010, 07:38 PM    (permalink
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Looking up old text messages is easy for phone companies. If he really did send one, they are going to probably have the record of it.
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Hah not saying the guy is lying but I love how everything has to be so difficult. Saved a text message on an old phone which has water damage.
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The new info thats coming out on this is going to blast Auburn into the stone age. The unc fiasco is small potatoes compared to this. Newton is just the tip of the iceberg. Trooper Taylor is the John Blake of the 21st century and the boosters of a basketball school can't even pretend to act like they can keep up with the guys behind this mess. The FBI had one of them wire tapped for another mess altogether and just stumbled upon this as a result. And lol @ whats going to happen to Slive for trying to cover this up
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Here you go. The guy is toast. I think Auburn is toast.

Here is a compilation by an obsessed LSU fan.
It was nice knowing you, Auburn.
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Old 11-18-2010, 09:01 AM    (permalink
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It was nice knowing you, Auburn.
Yeah, this is crazy stuff. If even 10% of this is true, they are nuked.

Here is a summary of the message board link:

The FBI has been investigating Colonial Bank and Louder for a number
of possible violations in the financial market crash which are
unrelated to AU. Part of the investigation involved gambling fraud
between McGregor and Colonial Bank. Something called the Rico Stature
allowed the justice department to set up wiretaps on Colonial Bank.
On the wiretaps the FBI found major AU recruiting infractions involving
Louder, McGregor, Dye, Trooper, boosters and others.
Here’s what they say the FBI has on tape and can prove AU did:

• The people above are on tape explaining who they paid and how they did it.
• It involves many AU players
• Providing unmarked Colonial Bank ATM cards to players to withdraw
money from secret accounts.
• Giving “slot machine cards” to the players, which now involves the
Alabama Gaming Commission.
• Provided improper loans to some of the families in our last and
current recruiting class.
• The NCAA “strongly” recommended that AU sit Cam for GA. game because
of the mounting evidence.
• President Grogue wanted to sit Cam but was overruled by Louder and
the Board of Trustees.
• Coach Chizik knows none of this and has been lied to by Jacobs.
• The people named above know the S%#& is going to hit the fan “big
time” and have decided “we’re going down” so lets win the title even
if they take it away later.
• Slive knew about this early and sat on the information and is also
in the “crosshairs” of the FBI..
• The corruption is so deep at the highest level (trustees) that AU
will be evicted from kicked out of the SEC.
• This will be revealed by the end of the week.
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Yeah, this is crazy stuff. If even 10% of this is true, they are nuked.

Here is a summary of the message board link:

The FBI has been investigating Colonial Bank and Louder for a number
of possible violations in the financial market crash which are
unrelated to AU. Part of the investigation involved gambling fraud
between McGregor and Colonial Bank. Something called the Rico Stature
allowed the justice department to set up wiretaps on Colonial Bank.
On the wiretaps the FBI found major AU recruiting infractions involving
Louder, McGregor, Dye, Trooper, boosters and others.
Here’s what they say the FBI has on tape and can prove AU did:

• The people above are on tape explaining who they paid and how they did it.
• It involves many AU players
• Providing unmarked Colonial Bank ATM cards to players to withdraw
money from secret accounts.
• Giving “slot machine cards” to the players, which now involves the
Alabama Gaming Commission.
• Provided improper loans to some of the families in our last and
current recruiting class.
• The NCAA “strongly” recommended that AU sit Cam for GA. game because
of the mounting evidence.
• President Grogue wanted to sit Cam but was overruled by Louder and
the Board of Trustees.
• Coach Chizik knows none of this and has been lied to by Jacobs.
• The people named above know the S%#& is going to hit the fan “big
time” and have decided “we’re going down” so lets win the title even
if they take it away later.
• Slive knew about this early and sat on the information and is also
in the “crosshairs” of the FBI..
• The corruption is so deep at the highest level (trustees) that AU
will be evicted from kicked out of the SEC.
• This will be revealed by the end of the week.
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They're so ******. Someone put it well on a Michigan board- Auburn is so ****** that the NCAA is going to make SMU look like Practicegate.
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They're so ******. Someone put it well on a Michigan board- Auburn is so ****** that the NCAA is going to make SMU look like Practicegate.
As long as they win the very last Iron Bowl, Auburn fans will be happy.
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The new info thats coming out on this is going to blast Auburn into the stone age. The unc fiasco is small potatoes compared to this. Newton is just the tip of the iceberg. Trooper Taylor is the John Blake of the 21st century and the boosters of a basketball school can't even pretend to act like they can keep up with the guys behind this mess. The FBI had one of them wire tapped for another mess altogether and just stumbled upon this as a result. And lol @ whats going to happen to Slive for trying to cover this up
Wouldn't John Blake be the John Blake of the 21st century...?
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Maybe.

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Maybe.

LOLZ!!!!!

So true. I can't get over how stupid it is to gloat over what another team in your conference does.
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So true. I can't get over how stupid it is to gloat over what another team in your conference does.
Other SEC teams fans gloat b/c Auburn is getting just as much consideration of innocent until proven guilty as they gave Bama/Kentucky/Memphis U. in the Memphis HS d-linemen auctioned off to bosters at $100K a pop, the Fulmer denials of involvement in the aforementioned & skating + the Tennessee grad students taking test & writing pprs for athletes, the Miss. St. b-ball & FB probes, the recent Ole Miss probation, etc. ad nauseum.

The RICO statues are what used to prosecute organized crime conspiracies, btw. They were passed to nail mobsters who used legal loopholes to evade prosecution for all their scams, they're the Mob's worst nightmare.

Bonds text msg. looks from all outward appearances to be the smoking gun everyone's been looking for these last 2 wks.

Don't act like Auburn is a 1st-time offender, one of their disgruntled players in the mid-80s wore a wire to practice (how TF do you do that in pads?) & launched a scandal that got them put on their 1st FB probation & got Pat "Roll Over &" Dye fired.

It's the SEC, & it can't be let him who is without sin cast the 1st stone kind of situation.

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Yeah, this is crazy stuff. If even 10% of this is true, they are nuked.
Does anyone see HC Chizik surviving this? Does anybody believe that he had no knowledge of any of this? About the same no. of USC fans who
believed Carroll when confronted with the accusations of Reggie Bush's family living for several yrs in an LA condo with rent & expenses paid.

If even 10% of it is true, then stick a fork in the War Eagle.....

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Other SEC teams fans gloat b/c Auburn is getting just as much consideration of innocent until proven guilty as they gave Bama/Kentucky/Memphis U. in the Memphis HS d-linemen auctioned off to bosters at $100K a pop, the Fulmer denials of involvement in the aforementioned & skating + the Tennessee grad students taking test & writing pprs for athletes, the Miss. St. b-ball & FB probes, the recent Ole Miss probation, etc. ad nauseum.

Don't act like Auburn is a 1st-time offender, one of their disgruntled players in the mid-80s wore a wire to practice (how TF do you do that in pads?) & launched a scandal that got them put on their 1st FB probation & got Pat "Roll Over &" Dye fired.

It's the SEC, & it can't be let him who is without sin cast the 1st stone kind of situation.


Does anyone see HC Chizik surviving this? Does anybody believe that he had no knowledge of any of this? About the same no. of USC fans who
believed Carroll when confronted with the accusations of Reggie Bush's family living for several yrs in an LA condo with rent & expenses paid.

If even 10% of it is true, then stick a fork in the War Eagle.....
I was referring to the SEC chant thing where rival schools brag about how the team that they hate just won the NC or the like. I don't get it. I sure as hell wouldn't brag about Michigan winning the NC. It seems really weird to non-SEC fans.

Agree with you on all of the other points. Auburn is historically dirty and they are going to get nailed for this.

Also, there is no way in hell that MSU isn't getting punished for something. I mean, these guys don't call up a booster thinking that he doesn't have a reputation for PTP.

Chizik, as dumb as he is, may actually be pretty innocent in all of this.

What happens to Slive is going to be interesting.
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I was referring to the SEC chant thing where rival schools brag about how the team that they hate just won the NC or the like. I don't get it. I sure as hell wouldn't brag about Michigan winning the NC. It seems really weird to non-SEC fans.

Agree with you on all of the other points. Auburn is historically dirty and they are going to get nailed for this.

Also, there is no way in hell that MSU isn't getting punished for something. I mean, these guys don't call up a booster thinking that he doesn't have a reputation for PTP.

Chizik, as dumb as he is, may actually be pretty innocent in all of this.

What happens to Slive is going to be interesting.
IMO, it has to do with the stupid BCS rankings. The tougher your conference is perceived to be, the higher you end up ranked.

Go to a playoff system, and nobody would give a **** how other teams in their conference are doing.
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All SEC teams are dirty ******* cheaters, IMO
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IMO, it has to do with the stupid BCS rankings. The tougher your conference is perceived to be, the higher you end up ranked.

Go to a playoff system, and nobody would give a **** how other teams in their conference are doing.
While I agree for the most part, this would only explain the behavior during the season. SEC fans are notorious for bragging about another team from the SEC beating other schools in a bowl game/winning the NC, as if it were their accomplishment.

If we had a playoff, and say Florida won the championship, things wouldn't change from that. There would still be fans of other SEC teams proclaiming how great the SEC is and what not.
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All SEC teams are dirty ******* cheaters, IMO
At this point, improper benefits in college is turning out like steroids in baseball.

You have a system that all but encourages it, and everyone does it. You're hosed if you don't do it, and you're only dumb if you get caught.

Soon, we'll have congressional hearings and by that point, everyone will be so desensitized that nobody will even care anymore.
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IMO, it has to do with the stupid BCS rankings. The tougher your conference is perceived to be, the higher you end up ranked.

Go to a playoff system, and nobody would give a **** how other teams in their conference are doing.
This is exactly right. Michigan being dog **** right now hurts Ohio State. There is certainly an element of wanting your team to play a respectable conference schedule for the sake of that too, but the perceived weakness of a conference kills them in the BCS rankings.
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This is exactly right. Michigan being dog **** right now hurts Ohio State. There is certainly an element of wanting your team to play a respectable conference schedule for the sake of that too, but the perceived weakness of a conference kills them in the BCS rankings.
The Big10 is not perceived as weak this year by the vast majority of the CFB watching population.
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The Big10 is not perceived as weak this year by the vast majority of the CFB watching population.
No? They have a couple 1 loss teams not even in consideration for the National Title game should Auburn and Oregon lose. The Big Ten is an after thought.
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No? They have a couple 1 loss teams not even in consideration for the National Title game should Auburn and Oregon lose. The Big Ten is an after thought.
1st: SEC 2a: Big10 2b: Pac10 4th: Big12 5th: ACC 12th: Big Least

We could take this to another thread if you want, let's not hijack (I love to do it, so I need to police myself).
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1st: SEC 2a: Big10 2b: Pac10 4th: Big12 5th: ACC 12th: Big Least

We could take this to another thread if you want, let's not hijack (I love to do it, so I need to police myself).
Is the SEC really the top dog this year? The East is a clusterfuck and in the West, Auburn's season probably never happened. I liked Alabama in the pre-season, but they've disappointed relative to expectations. LSU's luck is bound to run out. After that, it's a huge cluster of mediocrity.
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I'll take the Pac-10 as the best conferance in the country 1-8.
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I'll take the Pac-10 as the best conferance in the country 1-8.
Of course you do... And Jake Locker is the best QB in the country :)

I think the Big10 smokes the Pac10 1-8.
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Of course you do... And Jake Locker is the best QB in the country :)

I think the Big10 smokes the Pac10 1-8.
The Pac-10 has 10 teams in the top 20 toughest schedules in the country. the Big-10 zero.

The Pac-10 has two teams in the BCS top 6, the Big-10's top team is at 9.

The Pac-10 has arguably 4 eventual first round QB's in Luck, Locker, Barkely and Foles and Darron Thomas of Oregon is a borderline invite to the Heisman awards at the end of the season. The Big-10 has Ricky Stanzi and........

I'm a homer but numbers dont lie.
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