Young Guns: Bradford, Stafford, Sanchez, Freeman, Flacco, Ryan

[soybean]

Freeman is the new captain checkdown (I have only watched this game from him this year)

[soybean]

Originally Posted by tjsunstein

I'm going to wait until a full season has gone by before I even think about changing my vote. Only because I voted for Freeman. If I went Flacco or Sanchez, which I wouldn't/didn't because I knew better, I would get off asap. Bradford isn't close either.

This is the most blantant form of hypocrisy ever. You're going to "wait until a full season has gone by" before you change your vote from freeman but you are telling people to get off the sanchez and flacco wagon? Really...?

[Bulldogs]

Right now top three are Stafford, Ryan and Freeman. Tough to give an exact order, I'll figure that out by the end of the season.

[tjsunstein]

Originally Posted by soybean

This is the most blantant form of hypocrisy ever. You're going to "wait until a full season has gone by" before you change your vote from freeman but you are telling people to get off the sanchez and flacco wagon? Really...?

Well yea, since I have Freeman I would like to see one more full season of his before I get off his bandwagon and onto Stafford's but I've seen enough of Flacco and Sanchez, as evidenced by not voting for them, to solidify my opinion of them which is they won't be as good as Stafford or Freeman will.

In short, it's going to take a whole season for me to get off Freeman. Whereas I've seen enough of Flacco and Sanchez.

[CC.SD]

lol I think if you don't take Stafford out of this group you are a dum dum. Even Ryan can't match up to Stafford right now.

[soybean]

Stafford is amazing.

However, just to bring him back down to earth A LITTLE BIT, let's not forget he needed OT to beat the vikings and a horrible collapse from the cowboys to be 4-0 and not to mention the dennis rodman of wide receivers.

btw, im not knocking him at all. He's EASILY the best on the list.

[Halsey]

Stafford and Ryan are EASILY the top 2 on this list. The others have no business sharing a thread with them.

Lions-Falcons is the next 5 NFC Championship games.

[tjsunstein]

Originally Posted by Halsey

Stafford and Ryan are EASILY the top 2 on this list. The others have no business sharing a thread with them.

Lions-Falcons is the next 5 NFC Championship games.

[Rosebud]

Originally Posted by LonghornsLegend

Well everyone that asked why Stafford was winning this thread last year should have your answer. It's not even close as to who is the 1st QB I'm taking off of this list.

I'm not sure whether you mean Bradford or Freeman?...

[BamaFalcon59]

Ryan? lol

Ryan can touch Stafford.

[soybean]

Originally Posted by Halsey

Lions-Falcons is the next 5 NFC Championship games.

That's cute.

[bucfan12]

ESPN First Take had a debate this morning on the best young QB in the league is and the main argument was between Stafford and Freeman. As much as I dislike Skip Bayless, does he have a point when Stafford has a guy like Calvin Johnson to throw to, who is very very difficult to defend?

An argument for Freeman was that besides Mike Williams, the other young Wrs struggle getting open and Freeman hits 6+ different WRs every game and does a nice job spreading the ball.

Debate?

[SolidGold]

Originally Posted by bucfan12

ESPN First Take had a debate this morning on the best young QB in the league is and the main argument was between Stafford and Freeman. As much as I dislike Skip Bayless, does he have a point when Stafford has a guy like Calvin Johnson to throw to, who is very very difficult to defend?

An argument for Freeman was that besides Mike Williams, the other young Wrs struggle getting open and Freeman hits 6+ different WRs every game and does a nice job spreading the ball.

Debate?

Stafford has no running game/offensive balance on that team. Teams know he is going throw the ball. IMO Freeman is a poor man's Roethlisberger.

[tjsunstein]

Why is it that QBs get knocked for having weapons and using them to their full advantage and defended like nothing else when they don't have weapons? There seems to be no middle ground. It's either the WR(s) are too good (Stafford), or the QB is too good for their WRs (Bradford, Freeman).

[bucfan12]

I like the way Freeman spreads the ball to his WRs, but Jon Gruden, who I dislike, said it best last night. Greg Olsen doesn't trust the young WRs to open up the offense.

It's like Greg Olsen is the father and the young bucs offense are his kids and he's afraid to take the training wheels off the bikes.

Not to be a homer, but if Greg Olsen actually starts unleashing what Freeman can do, we could see a different QB.

[Rosebud]

Originally Posted by tjsunstein

Why is it that QBs get knocked for having weapons and using them to their full advantage and defended like nothing else when they don't have weapons? There seems to be no middle ground. It's either the WR(s) are too good (Stafford), or the QB is too good for their WRs (Bradford, Freeman).

*shrug* it's not always a knock. Just because Stafford has an easier job than Bradford or Freeman isn't a knock on Stafford but a pro for the other two who don't have that luxury.

[Complex]

Originally Posted by tjsunstein

Why is it that QBs get knocked for having weapons and using them to their full advantage and defended like nothing else when they don't have weapons? There seems to be no middle ground. It's either the WR(s) are too good (Stafford), or the QB is too good for their WRs (Bradford, Freeman).

He struggled against the cowboys when the cowboys were shutting down Calvin. Then he threw a ball into triple coverage but he had Calvin pretty bunch bail him out.

[Bulldogs]

Originally Posted by bucfan12

ESPN First Take had a debate this morning on the best young QB in the league is and the main argument was between Stafford and Freeman. As much as I dislike Skip Bayless, does he have a point when Stafford has a guy like Calvin Johnson to throw to, who is very very difficult to defend?

An argument for Freeman was that besides Mike Williams, the other young Wrs struggle getting open and Freeman hits 6+ different WRs every game and does a nice job spreading the ball.

Debate?

Skip Bayless also has a permanent hard-on for Josh Freeman.

[bucfan12]

Originally Posted by Bulldogs

Skip Bayless also has a permanent hard-on for Josh Freeman.

Haha yeah, but the other two guys made valid points as well and one even said he'd take Freeman and liked to see what he can do with WRs that can actually stretch the field.

[J-Mike88]

Originally Posted by bucfan12

ESPN First Take had a debate this morning on the best young QB in the league is and the main argument was between Stafford and Freeman. As much as I dislike Skip Bayless, does he have a point when Stafford has a guy like Calvin Johnson to throw to, who is very very difficult to defend?

31 of 32 teams would take Stafford over Freeman if they all were re-drafted.

Freeman really misses his deep-thread he had in Manhattan with the K-State Wildcats!
Aqib Talib rememberzzzz those days.

[Brent]

Originally Posted by J-Mike88

Freeman really misses his deep-thread he had in Manhattan with the K-State Wildcats!

he had a deep threat?

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Originally Posted by bucfan12

Not to be a homer, but if Greg Olsen actually starts unleashing what Freeman can do, we could see a different QB.

You? Never. But Stafford's been the only impressive one this year.

[bucfan12]

Originally Posted by J-Mike88

31 of 32 teams would take Stafford over Freeman if they all were re-drafted.
Freeman really misses his deep-thread he had in Manhattan with the K-State Wildcats!
Aqib Talib rememberzzzz those days.

Not all 31 of those 32 teams have a guy named Mega-Tron as there WR though ;)

[SickwithIt1010]

Originally Posted by Halsey

Stafford and Ryan are EASILY the top 2 on this list. The others have no business sharing a thread with them.

Lions-Falcons is the next 5 NFC Championship games.

The Champ might have something to say about that...

[niel89]

Originally Posted by Brent

he had a deep threat?

In case YA'LL FORGOT



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