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View Poll Results: Who will be the number one pick?
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Vesely will go higher. He is top 10 talent with his size and athleticism. NBA teams love international players.

Parsons will either go in the 2nd or go undrafted. No way he sneaks into the first. Needs to get better on defense. Great size, but doesn't know how to use it.

Why would anyone take a chance with Dunn after this year? Can't play defense, turns it over too much, has no athleticism, not a true PG and is undersized to be a SG, but doesn't even have the talent to be a SG in the NBA.

Same thing with Freeman. He'll struggle in the NBA against quicker players. It's his basketball IQ and shooting that could get him drafted.

There is too much to say about Jeremy Tyler. Read this, and I promise it will change your mind on him: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/sp...l/08tyler.html

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Vesely will go higher. He is top 10 talent with his size and athleticism. NBA teams love international players.

Parsons will either go in the 2nd or go undrafted. No way he sneaks into the first. Needs to get better on defense. Great size, but doesn't know how to use it.

Why would anyone take a chance with Dunn after this year? Can't play defense, turns it over too much, has no athleticism, not a true PG and is undersized to be a SG, but doesn't even have the talent to be a SG in the NBA.

Same thing with Freeman. He'll struggle in the NBA against quicker players. It's his basketball IQ and shooting that could get him drafted.

There is too much to say about Jeremy Tyler. Read this, and I promise it will change your mind on him: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/sp...l/08tyler.html

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ok an article from 2009, Jeremy Tyler has been working hard since he got to Japan. In such a weak draft he's too talented to be overlooked. Also what's the hate with Dunn. Any 2nd round pick has major holes. Dunn can score, that will land him a chance in the NBA. And yes I know Freeman has slow feet, I watch every Georgetown game. Again his ability to knock down 3's and play tough defense will get him drafted. Also Vesley I am not high on because he is your typical soft euro.
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ok an article from 2009, Jeremy Tyler has been working hard since he got to Japan. In such a weak draft he's too talented to be overlooked. Also what's the hate with Dunn. Any 2nd round pick has major holes. Dunn can score, that will land him a chance in the NBA. And yes I know Freeman has slow feet, I watch every Georgetown game. Again his ability to knock down 3's and play tough defense will get him drafted. Also Vesley I am not high on because he is your typical soft euro.
Tyler started to show some improvement, but it got cut short due to the crisis, but it's still a small sample size. He'll either go in the 2nd or go undrafted. A lot of people can score, but it doesn't always translate to the NBA. You need other strengths to even be a role player. Being a tough defender isn't going to be a positive in the NBA when he's not going to be able to keep up with half of those guards. Vesely is nothing like a soft Euro. He actually plays hard, and with emotion. He'll need to slow his game down though.

You overrate scoring. Brooks and Hazell are really just scorers. If you think they're going to get drafted, then why wouldn't Diebler get a shot? And I don't even think Tisdale wants to enter the draft.
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Tisdale is awful.

My cousin, my uncle, and myself are big Illini basketball fans and have been big haters of McCamey and Tisdale.

I keep telling them that Tisdale will be back in his rural hometown of Riverton, IL pumping gas before we know it.
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Tisdale is awful.

My cousin, my uncle, and myself are big Illini basketball fans and have been big haters of McCamey and Tisdale.

I keep telling them that Tisdale will be back in his rural hometown of Riverton, IL pumping gas before we know it.
He probably ruined their chance of beating Kansas with all of the 3's he was chucking up.

They got a great group coming in next year though. I'm excited to see how they do. Richmond better stay though. He better step it up also.
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I am worried on how Jereme Richmond will affect the team. Kid has the talent, but a ten cent head. They may be better off without him.
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Tisdale is awful.

My cousin, my uncle, and myself are big Illini basketball fans and have been big haters of McCamey and Tisdale.

I keep telling them that Tisdale will be back in his rural hometown of Riverton, IL pumping gas before we know it.
Riverton sucks, i've been there a few times. Was it on here someone said Myers Leonard would be a lottery pick?
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I doubt Joseph declares. If he does he's probably late first-2nd. He really needs to improve his PG skills and get stronger. Tristan Thompson could be a lottery pick because it's such a weak draft. Defensively has a big time potential. He's strong, has long arms and can really play great one on one post defense. Offfensively though he's a mess and needs a ton of work. He's a first round lock though.

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I just assume he'll be back until I hear something. For the record I am not a Henson fan at all. Until he gains 20 pounds and increases his basketball IQ I can't have him in my top 10. Someone will probably take him in the lottery though purely on length and athleticism.
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I just assume he'll be back until I hear something. For the record I am not a Henson fan at all. Until he gains 20 pounds and increases his basketball IQ I can't have him in my top 10. Someone will probably take him in the lottery though purely on length and athleticism.
I am not sure how he differs from Brandon Wright a whole lot... he came into the season at like 200 which was a step forward, but he just excels in shot blocking so far.. sometimes he can't even rebound because of how weak his wrists/hands are.
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I really hope Harrison Barnes falls to the Kings if he enters. We really need a impact SF and with the right coaching Barnes will get his shot more consistant.

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Irving has to be at the top of your list. Evans is a scorer, not a point guard. Every team that has ever won the title has needed a true PG, and they are usually not their team's leading scorer. With Irving, they'd have major potential all-around.
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I'm really excited for the Cavs 2 top 10 picks. I only hated them because of LeBron but now that he dashed, I am rooting for them to get back on their feet. They have a real chance to come up with 2 franchise changing picks. Assuming they have a top 4 pick best case scenario would be to land a pair like Kyrie+Terrence or Perry Jones. They could also go another route and go Derrick Williams or Enes Kanter+Kemba, Knight, or Burks.
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Irving has to be at the top of your list. Evans is a scorer, not a point guard. Every team that has ever won the title has needed a true PG, and they are usually not their team's leading scorer. With Irving, they'd have major potential all-around.
I personally would put Irving ahead, but I still think Sacramento thinks Tyreke can play PG and they really like Thornton as a shooter next to him. I think we are fine with Dalembert now and Cousins will be at the PF. So an upgrade over Casspi/Greene at SF seems like the right pick. Barnes I think will be like Luol Deng at least in the NBA.
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Yeah I don't think they'd take Kyrie. Evans needs to be ball dominant to be effective, you need an off guard who can shoot and run some point and Thornton looks like he might be that. When thinking of Evans as a lead guard think D-Wade, you don't need a great PG beside him. In fact Evans becomes less effective with a great PG because he can't come off screens and shoot. Derrick Williams makes sense as he would replace what Carl Landry brought, although Enes Kanter makes some sense. While he and Cousins are both bangers with limited range that would be one of the toughest front courts in the NBA. Kemba is a sleeper if it's in that 5-8 range because he'd be the perfect complement to Tyreke Evans because he can play off ball, Knight applies to that as well. Terrence and Perry could also get looks.
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A team that has Tyreke handling the ball the majority of the time is never going to win anything though, so it's kinda a vicious cycle.
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Ummm the Lakers have won 5 titles with Derek Fisher running the point so....????
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The PG isn't that important for the triangle offense. He's still a quality PG, and good for team chemistry.


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Yeah I don't think they'd take Kyrie. Evans needs to be ball dominant to be effective, you need an off guard who can shoot and run some point and Thornton looks like he might be that. When thinking of Evans as a lead guard think D-Wade, you don't need a great PG beside him. In fact Evans becomes less effective with a great PG because he can't come off screens and shoot. Derrick Williams makes sense as he would replace what Carl Landry brought, although Enes Kanter makes some sense. While he and Cousins are both bangers with limited range that would be one of the toughest front courts in the NBA. Kemba is a sleeper if it's in that 5-8 range because he'd be the perfect complement to Tyreke Evans because he can play off ball, Knight applies to that as well. Terrence and Perry could also get looks.
Him not getting to come off screens isn't going to make him less effective. He can create his own shot. He commits too many turnovers, and doesn't have a PG mindset.
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Where do u guys think the 2 uga players will go?
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Thompkins could go late first?

But I would say both 2nd.
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Where do u guys think the 2 uga players will go?
TT to the Nets in the late first is my dream pick
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