2011 NBA Draft Thread - Page 67

WMD · 06-24-2011, 08:11 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/bal...urn=nba-wp5562

It appears Tanguy Ngombo is actually 26, and not 21 like he said.

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NBA rules dictate that European players become automatically eligible for the league at 22 years old, at which point they become free agents unless a team already holds their rights through the draft. Since Ngombo had never been selected and his real age of 26 appears to have been a matter of public record, the selection should have never been allowed to happen and may be voided after the fact.

bearsfan_51 · 06-24-2011, 08:13 PM

et tu, Tanguy?

Bosanac01 · 06-24-2011, 08:39 PM

He's about to be 27. I say **** it, let him play. They'll probably allow a comp pick next year or something.

Brodeur · 06-24-2011, 09:39 PM

Kahn: great GM or GREATEST GM?

LTgiants · 06-24-2011, 09:43 PM

Oh definitely greatest of all time.

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-24-2011, 09:47 PM

Funny enough Derrick Williams and Malcolm Lee are two great picks. If Lee went in the late first I wouldn't have questioned anything, but damn they passed on Marshon Brooks, and Mirotic.

WMD · 06-24-2011, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanTaylorRIP

Funny enough Derrick Williams and Malcolm Lee are two great picks. If Lee went in the late first I wouldn't have questioned anything, but damn they passed on Marshon Brooks, and Mirotic.

How about you give us some insight into the potentially freakin awesome 2012 Draft class?

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-24-2011, 10:22 PM

I'm not sold on Davis yet, had his meteoric rise with his growth spurt but I've seen a ton of players rated high like him not pan out, he definitely needs to fill out his body and show some more toughness inside. I prefer Perry Jones to him at this moment although Davis will have his chance to prove it. As of today no question Harris Barnes is the top prospect in the draft. I really hope he's been working on becomming an adequate ball handler, because everything else is there for him to be great. Marquis Teague and Kabongo to me are the only freshman I am sold on. Not sold on any of the bigs yet and will need to see the role Rivers develops into. Not a Sullinger fan, I actually think amidst all the freshman hype Terrence Jones will work his way back into the lottery. He will be the team leader and show his all around versatility. I think Gilchrist will end up a top 10 pick, he's an NBA ready player although his upside is limited. Unless Nogueira or Lima have huge develpment over the next year I don't see a lottery international player right now after having so many this year. Rudy Gobert and Linos Chrysikopoulos are two sleeper names watch out for.

scottyboy · 06-24-2011, 10:34 PM

i think the nets need to find a way to get Harrison Barnes because he is awesome and is my hands down #1 prospect for next years draft. i'm a huge harrison fan

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-24-2011, 10:45 PM

When all is said and done I predict Teague to be the #1 prospect but it will be down to team need if him or Barnes goes #1. Teague is a better prospect than Irving. Wroten and Lebryan Nash could be one and done's, Nash especially has lottery pick written all over him. Kabongo IMO will be in college a couple years.

WMD · 06-24-2011, 10:54 PM

I hope Charlotte gets Kabongo to pair with Biyombo. That would be amazing.

nepg · 06-25-2011, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SeanTaylorRIP

Funny enough Derrick Williams and Malcolm Lee are two great picks. If Lee went in the late first I wouldn't have questioned anything, but damn they passed on Marshon Brooks, and Mirotic.

Lee is actually a good pick. Reminds me of a smarter Tony Allen.

Derrick Williams...not so much...certainly not for that team. Enes Kanter should have been the pick.

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-25-2011, 12:21 AM

Derrick Williams is a superior player to Kanter, both are PF's, at least Williams gives them versatility. Kanter and Love would be a horrendous defensive tandem. Zero challenges at the rim. I think Kanter at #4 would have been right, I don't even get his fit in Utah either. With their loaded front court if they wanted to go big they should have gone Jonas as they could have waited for him and by then the whole Favors/Millsap/Jefferson situation would be worked out. Not to mention Ante Tomic is there if they want to bring him over even though he nees to continue to add weight to that awesome skill set. I said it before but really Vesely would have been the best pick for Utah. I do like the Burks pick although since they did go Kanter at #3 I think they should have gone with Leonard or Singleton.

proshoota25 · 06-25-2011, 12:39 AM

heres to hoping bradley beal falls to the celts with their top 10 protected 1st rounder next year...... perfect replacement for ray allen

WMD · 06-25-2011, 12:44 AM

ROOKIE NUMBER TIME:

Brandon Knight #0
Vernon Macklin #20
Kyle Singler is undecided

LTgiants · 06-25-2011, 12:49 AM

Iman Shumpert # 21

prock · 06-25-2011, 01:29 AM

No, thank god we didn't take Kanter. That would have been awful.

Anyone listen to Kahn on Simmons podcast? He actually sounds competent.

yo123 · 06-25-2011, 01:57 AM

Derrick Williams is #7.

bearsfan_51 · 06-25-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by prock

No, thank god we didn't take Kanter. That would have been awful.

Anyone listen to Kahn on Simmons podcast? He actually sounds competent.

Kahn's problem is that he's way too smart for his own good. Being in academia, I know thousands of people like this. They are brilliant, but take an hour to order something at a restaurant because they over-analyze everything.

derza222 · 06-25-2011, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SeanTaylorRIP

Funny enough Derrick Williams and Malcolm Lee are two great picks. If Lee went in the late first I wouldn't have questioned anything, but damn they passed on Marshon Brooks, and Mirotic.

Thoughts on what kind of player Mirptic ends up being if he comes over? Loved the idea behind the pick at least, Bulls weren't going to bring in two rookies this year and if he does come over there's a chance you get much more talent than you would have otherwise - that said I only know what I've read about the guy. Also think (from another post) Gilchrist's potential depends on how much he's able to develop a J, if he does and becomes a 3 or even a 2 he could be an absolute monster - big if though.

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-25-2011, 11:55 AM

Nikola went at a good place although I do feel he's overrated. You can't argue his level of competition and productivity however this whole thing that ESPN was saying that he's a top 10 pick and future allstar you just have to wait 3 years, is false. He's a good not great prospect. Even if he had no buyout he'd still go after Jonas, Vesely, and Biyombo, probably would give him the edge on Donatas but he isn't the next Dirk or probably even next Bargs. What he is, is a smart player who is highly skilled and can shoot. He won't be be able to rebound or defend in the league however. He is a lot more athletic than you'd think though. If he develops into his body more, he can be a more athletic version of Jorge Garbajosa. Definitely has potential to be a nice role player however I don't see this allstar potential like I've been hearing. I actually personally prefer Bojan, Bertans for me was always overrated and first needs to show he can improve his overall skill set and strength.

nepg · 06-25-2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by prock

No, thank god we didn't take Kanter. That would have been awful.

Anyone listen to Kahn on Simmons podcast? He actually sounds competent.

He's smart and is fairly competent. I think he knows what type of team he wants to put together, but just doesn't know how to get there. He basically wants his team to be the old Sacramento Kings, but he hired Kurt Rambis and let him install the triangle.

I mean, if he does hire Rick Adelman when they let Rambis go, things could be looking pretty good for them (also kind of funny since they sent Jonny Flynn to Houston because he's a great fit in that offense). With Rubio, Wes, Beasley, Williams, and Love as the starting 5... Could work out pretty well.

prock · 06-25-2011, 01:04 PM

I would totally be down with bringing in adelman. Flynn just sucks. I dont get how he had him above curry and rubio as prospects.

bearsfan_51 · 06-25-2011, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by nepg

He's smart and is fairly competent. I think he knows what type of team he wants to put together, but just doesn't know how to get there. He basically wants his team to be the old Sacramento Kings, but he hired Kurt Rambis and let him install the triangle.

I mean, if he does hire Rick Adelman when they let Rambis go, things could be looking pretty good for them (also kind of funny since they sent Jonny Flynn to Houston because he's a great fit in that offense). With Rubio, Wes, Beasley, Williams, and Love as the starting 5... Could work out pretty well.

You need Darko, or somebody, in there to play defense.

I agree on the whole, however, that the scheme fits will work themselves out if we install the proper offense and Rubio can be an effective distributor.

I like the Kings comparison, but whereas the Kings had an outside game with Stojakovic, the Wolves have an awful outside game. The best long distance shooters are probably Love and Williams. I think the Wolves need to be more like the Suns under D'Antonio. It's not a recipe to ever win a championship, and this team will always have awful defense as it's constructed now, but there is enough athletic talent to outpace other teams (again, if Rubio is worth anything).

Kahn was smart to blow the entire thing up and start from scratch. I don't have much faith in him to be able to turn it around, but you can at least see how the pieces are coming together if you squint hard enough.

Not every team is, or should be, constructed the same way. This team was an awful fit for the triangle, and I think Rambis was actually the worst move Kahn has made so far.

diabsoule · 06-25-2011, 01:45 PM

Best outside shooter for the Wolves is Martell Webster.