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Tough question, and hard to evaluate/judge, because a lot of it depends on other people's perceptions.

But for my Packers, I can think of 3 guys off the top of my head.

#1- Josh Sitton, RG
This guy is without a doubt a Pro Bowler right now. I don't think there's another OG in the league we would trade him for considering how good he is and how young he is. But nobody outside of the ice village up there is aware of him and he'll get screwed out of the Pro Bowl. Dallas' POS Leonard Davis will probably beat him for the Pro Bowl based on his name and team.

#2- Tramon Williams, CB/PR
He might be starting to make a name for himself, but most fans around the country still don't know how good this guy has been playing. Ask Packer fans who's been covering better this whole season, him or Woodson. Williams contract is up, and this guy is going to win a big lottery. Hopefully it's the Wisconsin Powerball. Tramon (and Sam Shields) is the reason why the Packers shockingly let Al Harris go a few weeks ago.

#3- Cullen Jenkins, DE
I still remember opening week of the 2007 NFL Season, and the big Tuna Parcells was in the booth for someone, and he mentioned this guy's name out of the blue as a great underrated player. Still, I don't think other team's fans have a clue how good this guy is.
In 2008, when he went down with the torn pec when we were 2-1 or something like that, our defense totally fell apart after that game and the season was a loss. He's a better 4-3 DT, but he's still great for us in the many schemes that Dom Capers throws out there. I still don't know why Kris Jenkins has a big name, but Cullen doesn't. Cullen says it's because of the colleges.

How bout your team?
Pretty much spot on with all of this, although Tramon is slowly getting a name for himself but considering he's playing as a top 5 CB right now it's too slowly.
All three are pro-bowlers and near the top at their positions.

I wish I could change something different but you pretty much nailed it.
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For the Rams:

1. Rodger Saffold LT

- I think this kid is one of the most underrated players in football, Has been tremendous at the left tackle spot, I don't even think he's allowed a sack all season, maybe one.

2. Fred Robbins DT

- He's come here and solidified the Defensive Line, Rams have 28 sacks on the season and going in to week 11 that was leading the NFL, huge improvement from last season when they had something like 23 sacks on the entire season.

3. Craig Dahl SS

- Has looked better than James Butler, even when Butlers been healthy.
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I don't think I can still say Kyle Williams. He's gotten good press this year and Tasker gushes over him every week. But there aren't many options, and the guy is great.

Stevie Johnson isn't really underrated because he's a well-publicized fantasy darling, but I feel like not too many people really know how he puts up those numbers. A fantastic route runner with good hands and brilliant after the catch running. He's so good at making his first move just as he catches the ball to shake the guy covering him. He's been able to go over the top a few times this year. He finds space so easily. Not the biggest or fastest, and certainly not the toughest, but he just makes it happen out there. Amazing red zone target, too. He breaks off of coverage phenomenally. Very good one-cut guy.

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Chad Greenway is just about the only Viking I think can fall into this category, maybe Herrera who has quietly been probably our 2nd best lineman this year(not saying much).
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D'Brickashaw Ferguson...up there with Thomas for best LT in the league, but doesn't really get talked up like one. Kept Mario Williams in check today...his sacks came against 75 the RT after Woody left and then one coverage/hustle sack.

Or Braylon Edwards, who has a bad rep but he's a locker room guy and really good WR.

Scott's pretty underrated because Davis Harris gets the better stats. Scott does alot of the dirty work.
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I'd go with either Chris Clemons or Red Bryant.

Clemons was buried on the depth chart in Philly but since coming to Seattle he's been awesome. He's constantly in the backfield and has given us that legitimate pass rusher we've been missing for so long. His name needs to be in the Pro Bowl discussion.

Bryant was never more then a "meh" player at DT, but was playing awesome at DE for us. With him in the line up, our run defense was phenomenal. Since losing him, our run D looks like the run D of last year. Being so great against the run on 1st and 2nd down really allowed us to use a lot of 5 and 6 DB sets, but when you can't stop the run and give your opponent 2nd + 3rd and short you can't do that. Our defense really looks a lot worse without him.
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I'd actually go with Bradie James for Dallas. In a **** year, he's actually played some very good football. And while he has never been great in coverage, he's always been a very solid LB for us, and a mainstay in the defense, for the last 7 years or so.
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Manumaleuna sucks.

For the Bears id say: Danieal Manning, Brad Maynard and Idonije
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For the Bears id say: Danieal Manning, Brad Maynard and Idonije
Yeah really, Manu? What was that guy smoking....

For who you mentioned:

Manning - Has been an animal this year. The last few years, he earned the nickname "The Matador" for a reason, but he hasn't been afraid to lay the lumber at all this year. I really hope we resign him as he's only on a one year tender right now. And hopefully Major Wright can step up to man the other safety spot headed forward because Chris "I thought you were covering him" Harris leaves a lot to be desired....

Idonije - He's been underrated for a few seasons now. I loved him the last two years...was probably our best d-lineman. This year with Peppers drawing all the attention, he has really taken over. Gotta love his story too starting out on the practice squad, then moved to special teams at a 6'6 270+, then into the rotation where he rocked, now starting and he rocks. Awesome.

Our starting DTs also deserve a mention in Anthony Adams and Matt Toeaina. I read an article earlier this year where Urlacher was quoted saying this pair is his favorite to play behind that he's had in his career. Even better than early on when he had Washington and Traylor, and better than when pro-bowl Harris and Tank Johnson when we made the Superbowl. They aren't the greatest pass rushers ever, but they hold the line well and free up the linebackers to make plays. Big reason why our run defense has been so good.
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- Jason Peters and Asante Samuel are considered over-rated around the NFL, but are having such beastly seasons that they are now under-rated. Both are much deserving of the pro bowl this year.

- Dimitri Patterson is coming into his own starting opposite Samuel, I didn't think he would make the 53 man roster this year but he might have solidified a starting spot through at least next season, at least until the rookie we probably draft in the early rounds becomes ready to take over.

- The loss of Leonard Weaver and Jamaal Jackson for the season in the first game seemed devastating at first, but their replacements, Owen Schmitt and Mike McGlynn, have played very admirably and deserve starting spots in the NFL.

- Neither Antonio Dixon or Moise Fokou started the year in the starting lineup, but after Dixon was promoted because of injury, and Fokou was promoted due to poor play by Akeem Jordan, the defense has been night and day better in defending the run. They bring a physicality that the defense seemed to lack when they let the likes of Jahvid Best and Ryan Torain run wild on them.
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Peyton Manning. That guy gets like zero recognition for his effort every week.

But no seriously I don't know who to nominate for the Colts.

Jerraud Powers, I guess. As a rookie he was our best corner last year and he still is today, but most people think Kelvin Hayden is.
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Pretty much hit the nail on the head with the three Packers already mentioned but I'm going to throw a few names out there for fun.
Korey Hall - outstanding special teamer, good lead blocker
Desmond Bishop - He's been so good since Barnett went down. Resigning him and Tramon are our top offseason priorities. Even if it means we cut Hawk, which I would still rather not do. I think Hawk could play outside in our defense, but that's neither here nor there.
James Jones - He's emerging as a big play threat and he's challenging Donald Driver for the #2 receiver spot already. Another guy that we need to extend this offseason
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Chris Ivory and it isn't even close. I love this guy, and if he really continues to prove himself, PT or Bush may not have a job in the "Big Easy" next year.
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Bryan McCann has been the nobody hero who emerged from nowhere, the SMU UDFA DB for Dallas, 102-yd punt return & an INT as the backup to Terence Newman in the 1st 2 Jason Garrett-coached games to aid rare wins this yr. vs. The Giants & Detroit.
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I don't know how you could list our long snapper as underrated.
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Samuel's incredible this year. He covers, gets picks and tackles!

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Eli, Boley and Jonathon Goff
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