|
|
| Pro Football Discuss professional football. |
11-23-2010, 01:58 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Mage Bros
All-Pro
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 8,173
Reputation: 1796784
|
Most overrated player on your favorite team: 2010 edition
Since we have a thread telling us who we're missing on other teams, here's a thread to set everyone straight on why somebody isn't actually that good. There's an old version of this thread but it's from May of 09 and this stuff changes from year to year.
For the Colts I'll nominate Gary Brackett. It's funny because for several years he was so underrated that all people would talk about is how underrated he is. So now it's gone too far in the other direction. He has battled injuries but this year when he's been in the game he's been a bad tackler, slower in coverage, and the defense as a whole isn't as sharp. As captain of the D that partially falls on him. I've never liked him that much because overachievers eventually come back to earth and I figured it was only a matter of time. I don't think it will take long for Pat Angerer to take his spot as starter.
__________________
Thanks for the sig BK
|
|
|
|   Sponsored Advertisement |
|   Remove Ads By Signing Up for an Account! |
|
11-23-2010, 02:02 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
SWDC Mafia
Legend
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: You can call me Jooby Guverse
Posts: 24,483
Reputation: 6089182
|
I guess I'd go with Brian Waters. He is thought of (by a lot of Chiefs fans) as the best OL we have, but he has been constantly beat and looked lost out there. Asamoah is the future and may be ready to take over for him now.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Caddy
I want to be Vidae.
|
Quote:
<@vidae> D:
<@comahan> D:
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by AcheTen
Jason Pierre-Paul is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
|
** RIP themaninblack. You will be missed. **
|
|
|
11-23-2010, 02:05 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
TomTom Out
Legend
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: the 28th state
Posts: 25,824
Reputation: 4161926
|
Ahmad Brooks
__________________
Pick the Winners / '08: 171-96 (W) / '09: 177-90 / '10: 171-96 / '11: 183-84 (W) / '12: 173-94
|
|
|
11-23-2010, 02:07 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Pro Bowler
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Jacksonville, Fl
Posts: 3,971
Reputation: 316345
|
Not many people on the 49ers are overrated. Before this weekend it was probably Troy Smith by default but I guess I will say Aubrayo Franklin. He was very good last year and hasn't been bad this year but is a complete product of Justin Smith's dominance, imo.
|
|
|
11-23-2010, 02:08 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: VA/DC area
Posts: 983
Reputation: 63226
|
Tyvon Branch.
He's still living off his reputation as a good player from last year. He's been a liability all year, and that's putting it kindly.
__________________
Steal of the 2011 draft - Kris Adams. You heard it here!
|
|
|
11-23-2010, 02:09 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
All-Pro
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 5,566
Reputation: 447027
|
troy polamalu and hines ward
both are great players, but notoriously overrated by most steeler fans...especially ward. ward is a great slot receiver and move the chains kind of guy but he held out in 05 and wanted top 5 WR money and never once produced like a top 5 WR.
i hate criticizing troy in public places, you get hanged for that. hes too much a fan favorite. dont get me wrong, hes a great SS, but he could really do things alot better in some areas and he cant stay healthy because he trains like a figure skater during the offseason and does yoga with carrots and celery up his ass. couple that with his small size and torpedo style of play you get injuries
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saints-Tigers
"He won't be able to just use his arm power to throw defenders around at the next level!"
The hell he won't, lol.
|
|
|
|
11-23-2010, 02:09 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
All-Pro
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Boston
Posts: 6,255
Reputation: 142374
|
In this order.
1A. DJ Williams
1B. Brian Dawkins
At the rate Dawk is playing, he will soon be 1A. I have never intently followed DJ, but I think most super observant Broncos fans will agree that he has a severe problem shedding blocks and stopping runs for losses. He collects all his tackles 5 yards or more down field, which is not impressive. He has lost the explosion he once had as a rookie. Too bad we ****ed around with him at every position in the world, he could have been all-pro had he stuck to one position and mastered it (aka his original position) his 90 madden rating must be a product of the fact that he collects all his tackles by default, since we have the worst front 7 in football.
Last edited by Jimmy : 11-23-2010 at 02:12 PM.
|
|
|
11-23-2010, 02:09 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
#1 Vickscuser
All-NFLDC
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: LakerLand
Posts: 13,133
Reputation: 628697
|
Rashean Mathis, although nobody really thinks he's that good anymore. He had two years where he was a top five corner and then came crashing back down to earth.
|
|
|
11-23-2010, 02:11 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Shock Therapist
All-NFLDC
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 10,527
Reputation: 871504
|
No one, not a blessed soul. The defense is a bunch of no names with Phillips and Jammer standing out and playing well.
The offense is Rivers and his merry band of injury substitutes. I guess Dielman is kind of having a down year by his standards.
__________________
|
|
|
11-23-2010, 02:13 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Legend
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: NJ
Posts: 40,779
Reputation: 757064
|
Many opposing fans still seem to think Marion Barber is actually good. He'd be a good candidate for most overrated player for us...although, most Cowboys fans agree that he is pretty terrible these days.
Last edited by M.O.T.H. : 11-23-2010 at 02:15 PM.
|
|
|
11-23-2010, 02:13 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Pro Bowler
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: The difference between a child's toy and an adult toy
Posts: 4,101
Reputation: 1556729
|
Josh Cribbs :\
__________________
|
|
|
11-23-2010, 02:13 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
#1 Vickscuser
All-NFLDC
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: LakerLand
Posts: 13,133
Reputation: 628697
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by CC.SD
No one, not a blessed soul. The defense is a bunch of no names with Phillips and Jammer standing out and playing well.
The offense is Rivers and his merry band of injury substitutes. I guess Dielman is kind of having a down year by his standards.
|
I'd go with Eric Weddle. The perception with the media and fans outside of SD is that he's an okay player.
But he is far, far, far from okay.
|
|
|
11-23-2010, 02:17 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Rookie
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Spain
Posts: 141
Reputation: 27097
|
Jordan Gross
Great RT. Had a decent season a few years ago playing LT for first time, after that....mehh
|
|
|
11-23-2010, 02:18 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Pro Bowler
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Olean, New York
Posts: 4,008
Reputation: 69008
|
Favre and McKinnie and even Jared Allen. All three have been pretty terrible this year. Goes along with the season but thank god for yesterday.
__________________
Vikings | Yankees | Magic | Sabres | Chelsea FC | Alabama | St. Bonaventure
|
|
|
11-23-2010, 02:21 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Icon
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 19,980
Reputation: 1509449
|
I think some would think Jenkins is overrated but I don't think it's a secret what type of year he had. Had a good season then a down year.
It's actually a tough pick because I feel like most of the guys on our team who are trash most know it now. But I'd have to go with Bradie James. There are some people who think he's a good player for some reason but he's not.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Wright
I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.
|
|
|
|
11-23-2010, 02:21 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Icon
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 16,926
Reputation: 1142072
|
PAINS me to say this, absolutely kills me to, but Wes Welker. He is not the same receiver with the types of coverages being played on him and it really hurts because we need that level of production out of him.
Aaron Hernandez is also a little overrated at this point since becoming a fantasy football star. He has hurt this team with drops as much as he has helped them this year at times. He'll get there, but his statistics are much better than he actually is at this point and we're starting to go away from him on offense a bit as a result.
__________________

R.I.P. Junior Seau
|
|
|
11-23-2010, 02:23 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Team Leader
Icon
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 15,983
Reputation: 428647
|
Aside from the painstakingly obvious (Favre), I'd have to go with McKinnie. That is if we are talking about the media, because everyone here knows McKinnie is barely average.
As far as SWDCers, I guess I'd have to say Berrian. That being when they discuss our team and say "they need to get Bernard Berrian going" as if its possible.
__________________
"Compadres, it is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season. And remember, a shiny new donkey for whomever brings me the head of Colonel Montoya."
|
|
|
11-23-2010, 02:25 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
SuperBowl Prop Bet Winner
All-Pro
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: 2nd deck at Stanford Stadium
Posts: 5,941
Reputation: 1022051
|
Can I nominate the entire Ravens defense (minus Ray Lewis, Ngata, and Ed Reed)?
Ravens don't have that dominate scary defense anymore. We lost too many players on the D line, the corners are just okay at best, Suggs is the only pass rusher, and the scheme is just awful. No pressure, weaker against the run.
__________________
90 min of Luck's 2012 throws.
Quote:
Originally Posted by descendency
Blaine Gabbert should never be a DE, because he has no idea what a real QB is thinking.
|
|
|
|
11-23-2010, 02:26 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 569
Reputation: 81590
|
Ben Grubbs
Oher (as a LT, not as a RT)
Kelly Gregg (this year, in the past he was underrated)
|
|
|
11-23-2010, 02:27 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
All-NFLDC
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Chilling with HOF Hosmer
Posts: 13,705
Reputation: 141144
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by vidae
I guess I'd go with Brian Waters. He is thought of (by a lot of Chiefs fans) as the best OL we have, but he has been constantly beat and looked lost out there. Asamoah is the future and may be ready to take over for him now.
|
completely disagree.it has to be Chris Chambers.don't know what happened but he has been captain invisible this year
__________________
thanks to BoneKrusher for outstanding sig
Just Say NO to Joeckel
|
|
|
11-23-2010, 02:27 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Legend
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: NJ
Posts: 40,779
Reputation: 757064
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by LonghornsLegend
I think some would think Jenkins is overrated but I don't think it's a secret what type of year he had. Had a good season then a down year.
It's actually a tough pick because I feel like most of the guys on our team who are trash most know it now. But I'd have to go with Bradie James. There are some people who think he's a good player for some reason but he's not.
|
Bradie James has actually played really well this year, in a **** defense. I actually put him down as our most underrated player, no joke. The amount of hate he gets is ridiculous. And the guy has quietly put together a fine season. He's given up a few big play here or there...but the guy should never be out there on an island in coverage. And for whatever reason...we've been manning he and Brooking up on TEs, even when they're in the slot...which is beyond stupid. He's been a solid starter for us, for about 7 years now. He doesnt miss time and he always plays hard. Bradie has been all over the field this year...I've def. taken notice, he's playing faster and is on pace for a career high in tackles. Bradie is just a solid ILB, who doesnt really get all that much credit, even when he's playing good football.
|
|
|
11-23-2010, 02:47 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Team Leader
Legend
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Jersey
Posts: 25,358
Reputation: 2361116
|
The offensive line.
__________________
Thanks BoneKrusher
Quote:
Originally Posted by AcheTen
Jason Pierre-Paul is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
|
|
|
|
11-23-2010, 02:56 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
All-Pro
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Posts: 5,557
Reputation: 63805
|
For the Falcons I'll say Tony Gonzalez. He's not the top 5 tight end he has been in previous seasons. He has lost a step, and (gasp) has even dropped several easy balls this season. I love the man and hope he is just in a slump.
|
|
|
11-23-2010, 02:56 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Legend
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: NJ
Posts: 40,779
Reputation: 757064
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbluedefense
The offensive line.
|
You want to swap offensive lines? Stop your bitching. ;)
|
|
|
11-23-2010, 02:59 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
All-NFLDC
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 10,818
Reputation: 206172
|
Barret Ruud is ridiculously overrated. He used to be good, but now he is pretty turrible and people still think hes good
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:31 AM.
|