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Old 03-21-2007, 03:16 AM    (permalink
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Lamar Woodley had a great workout at his pro day. Ran the 40 in the low 4.7 range and a lot of scouts are talking about him playing OLB in the 3-4. He could possibly be a target for us in rounds 2 or 3. I personally feel he'll go in 2, but I believe he's worth a look.
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id love it if we took him, but personally id rather address DE in the 2nd...i feel like we are great at LB, but need a DE who brings a pass rush
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Yeah, I saw that. He ran a good time and had like a 38" verticle. He probably went up in most folks eyes.
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I could see it in the 2nd.
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Woodley was a great player at Mich but it is true he gets over whelmed by big LT like Jake Long, Joe Thomas, etc.

Also, he never played well in space as a OLB. Some folks believe, and I agree, he would make a great 3-4 ILB in a creative scheme.
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I still dont like him personally
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as a football player, I have nothing against the guy off the field
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I love his ability to get after the QB...but his height is a big concern for me. OLB need to have the height so when they ingage with someone on the outside...they can see when they need to shed...Lamarr will have trouble with this in the NFL...which is why he would only be a situational passrusher in our scheme.
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I would be fairly pleased with him in the second round. I think of him as a poor man's Merriman.
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Woodley is very strong. I think he would actually make a good MLB at his height and speed. Plus, you can move him around over the C/G and get him blitzing on passing downs. He actually has enough power to push a few of them around.
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Woodley is very strong. I think he would actually make a good MLB at his height and speed. Plus, you can move him around over the C/G and get him blitzing on passing downs. He actually has enough power to push a few of them around.
I never thought of him as an ILB. I dunno how I feel about that thought. He's a trained pressure player. Dunno how I feel about his range, fluidity and coverage skills. I would prefer to keep him at OLB.
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I never thought of him as an ILB. I dunno how I feel about that thought. He's a trained pressure player. Dunno how I feel about his range, fluidity and coverage skills. I would prefer to keep him at OLB.
The issue is he really struggled at the U in space and at OLB. His coverage skills where considered poor because he was not as fluid as you would like. Granted that was as a 4-3 LB.

Maybe 3-4 OLB doing mostly blitzing is the right thing. Dunno enuff to say.
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I rather gamble with these two picks on the bottom

Round 1. Jarvis Moss. Defensive End that brings 4.7 speed to the pass rush. Plays both 4-3 and 3-4 defenses.

Round 2. Aaron Rouse. Safety/outside Linebacker. He runs 4.52 speed. He can play the safety position and outside linebacker position. The cowboys can covert him to outside linebacker because of his speed and aggresiveness.
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Round 1. Jarvis Moss. Defensive End that brings 4.7 speed to the pass rush. Plays both 4-3 and 3-4 defenses.

Round 2. Aaron Rouse. Safety/outside Linebacker. He runs 4.52 speed. He can play the safety position and outside linebacker position. The cowboys can covert him to outside linebacker because of his speed and aggresiveness.
I think we heard you the first 3 times. Moss is a good pick...Not quite sure if he will be around at 22...but could slide.

Rouse as an OLB in a 3-4 is laughable. He is a safety...no way could he stand up against the point of attack against TE/OT over the course of a game. You do know we run a 3-4 right? Just try to remember this isn't madden...you can't find the fastest player and put him on the outside to beat the OT to sack the QB every play.
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The issue is he really struggled at the U in space and at OLB. His coverage skills where considered poor because he was not as fluid as you would like. Granted that was as a 4-3 LB.

Maybe 3-4 OLB doing mostly blitzing is the right thing. Dunno enuff to say.
Not really my forum, I just happened to notice this. Woodley never played OLB in a 4-3 while at Michigan. As a freshman he played DE in a 3-4, as a soph he played OLB in a 3-4, as a junior he played the rush backer role in the awful 3-4/4-3 Michigan seemed to want to play that year, and as a senior he played DE in a 4-3. He might have dropped back to OLB if Michigan shifted to a 4-3 set occasionally in his first 3 years, but he was never a set 4-3 outside linebacker.
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Not really my forum, I just happened to notice this. Woodley never played OLB in a 4-3 while at Michigan. As a freshman he played DE in a 3-4, as a soph he played OLB in a 3-4, as a junior he played the rush backer role in the awful 3-4/4-3 Michigan seemed to want to play that year, and as a senior he played DE in a 4-3. He might have dropped back to OLB if Michigan shifted to a 4-3 set occasionally in his first 3 years, but he was never a set 4-3 outside linebacker.
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It's weird... somedays I think Woodley is a good fit for us... But sometimes, like today, I don't like his game. It's not complete. I think thule is close to correct in that he would be a pass rusher... but not purely, as he can stop the run too. It's his role in coverage that scares me. But on the other hand, that's all Wade did with Merriman. Send him attackin'.
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i like him as a player but we dont need linebackers and hes to small to play a 3-4 DE if the cowboys pick him in the first round i will shot myself because we will have drafted a linebacker in the first round 3 years in a row. and im sure everyone watch the playoff game Capernter played outside he played great almost had a pick and make a bunch of game saving Tackles but i guess eveyone forgot about that.
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DeMarcus Ware, Greg Ellis, Bobby Carpenter, Bradie James, Akin Ayodele and Al Singleton. I think that we are set at LB for a long time. Why waste a first day draft pick on a position that's not needed?

A 3-4 DE would be great as well as a future NT or a FS. We signed Hamlin but he's a one year "prove yourself" deal. If Landry, Nelson, Griffin or Merriwether is on the board, I think that safety will be the pick.

WR is a possibility but I would rather wait until the second round for one.
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DeMarcus Ware, Greg Ellis, Bobby Carpenter, Bradie James, Akin Ayodele and Al Singleton. I think that we are set at LB for a long time. Why waste a first day draft pick on a position that's not needed?

A 3-4 DE would be great as well as a future NT or a FS. We signed Hamlin but he's a one year "prove yourself" deal. If Landry, Nelson, Griffin or Merriwether is on the board, I think that safety will be the pick.

WR is a possibility but I would rather wait until the second round for one.
And two of those players are in their 30's. I've said it a million times, every good 3-4 defense has to be very deep at LB. We're not quite as deep as we need to be.
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2nd round would be perfect spot for the cowboys. They could move Carpenter inside at his natural position.
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