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Old 01-24-2011, 02:26 PM    (permalink
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im not sure what people are talking about when you are talking about conducting himself better. I have yet to see him smile in any game or do more than a fist pump after a TD
I can't speak for everyone but in hindsight it would've been better for him to try to keep playing and have him carted off to the locker room. Regardless of reality the perception is that he just didn't feel too good and wanted to sit down for a while. It might not be fair but it's something that someone on the Bears staff might have done well to think about.
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So it sounds like he has almost identical to what I had. Grade 2 MCL sprain/tear. I also had 2 very deep bone bruises which made it impossible to straighten my leg the day after the injury. Immediately following the injury, I was in pain but it was not unbearable and I probably could have played an NFL playoff game on that knee (obviously I don't know for sure). However, it would have been pretty difficult to cut and it wasn't like he was playing well anyways. I was out of commission for about 2 months after the injury with physical therapy 2-3 times a week.
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Meh, idk. A sprain can essentially be the same thing as a tear, right?

The thing I don't understand about this argument is the assumption IF Cutler had come back he would have done any better than Hanie. Dom Capers owns Jay Cutler.
You know no one said that. Don't change the subject.

And why doesn't anyone remember seeing Jay smiling and high-fiving on the sideline after Caleb started putting up points? The camera went straight to him.
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Again it doesn't matter because the training staff ruled him out. Cutler has no say in it.
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Isn't Jay Cutler diabetic? Wouldn't that explain why it looks like he's disinterested/falling asleep/etc on the sideline?
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Isn't Jay Cutler diabetic? Wouldn't that explain why it looks like he's disinterested/falling asleep/etc on the sideline?
Yes but i doubt that has anything to do with it.
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Again it doesn't matter because the training staff ruled him out. Cutler has no say in it.
No, if Cutler wanted to go back out there bad enough, he could have.
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No, if Cutler wanted to go back out there bad enough, he could have.
If Todd Collins wanted to go back in after being benched he wouldn't be allowed, same with Cutler. Coaches decide who plays, not players.
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If Todd Collins wanted to go back in after being benched he wouldn't be allowed, same with Cutler. Coaches decide who plays, not players.
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Remember in his interview, he said "they kind of pulled me."

I highly doubt that would have stopped guys like Big Ben, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, or Aaron Rodgers.

Want to talk about a tough dude, coaches and players should show Cutler this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-jzYMSiNHQ
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No, if Cutler wanted to go back out there bad enough, he could have.
No. That's 100% false. If you have a competent training staff and you have a player with a serious knee injury you would never allow him to play. Cutler DID go out there and couldn't perform. That's when the staff pulled him. I commend the staff being safe with there players.
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Remember in his interview, he said "they kind of pulled me."

I highly doubt that would have stopped guys like Big Ben, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, or Aaron Rodgers.

Want to talk about a tough dude, coaches and players should show Cutler this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-jzYMSiNHQ
Do you have a link stating those guys would do that or are you just 100% making that up?
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The only reason you can keep playing on breaks and tears when they happen is the adrenaline. Even if Cutler played the whole game and they somehow find a way to win the game, he isn't going to be playing in the Super Bowl on it. I shattered my jaw playing rugby and went a solid 5 minutes without even noticing until the play stopped, took my mouthguard out, put it back in, bit down and realized my teeth were lining up about a half inch to the right. I didn't feel anything at all until the next day. I was standing on the sideline just cranking on my jaw to go back into place which was probably a terrible idea in hindsight.

My point, adrenaline is awesome.
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No...its Byron Leftwich at Marshall =/
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Jay did go back in. Todd got 2 series. Cortisone shots can be dangerous to people with diabetes. Once Emergency QB Caleb Hanie went in neither one could reenter.
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Want a better comparison than Rivers torn ACL game. How about Bruce Gradkowski finishing a game with both of his MCL's torn (fully torn in the left, partial in the right) for a 3 win Raiders team a few years back?

Cutler looked fine dropping back his last play of the game. Granted,the throw was awful and could have been because of planting on that knee, but a player who gives a crap at all would come off and say that it's fine and the trainers would have had to believed him because he didn't struggle in his dropback and was barely limping. He quit on his team, sorry.
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Jay did go back in. Todd got 2 series. Cortisone shots can be dangerous to people with diabetes. Once Emergency QB Caleb Hanie went in neither one could reenter.
They said they "worked on" the knee but it didn't respond.
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If I was a bears fan I wouldn't want Cutler to be my quarterback next year. This guy is a diva all the way back to how he acted in Denver. People like him got spoon fed their entire careers and when the going gets tough they quit.
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ah. the old "i said it based on absolutely nothing whatsoever, so it's clearly fact" argument. brilliant. i'm assuming you've never had a knee injury, given that you don't seem to actually understand them at all.
I'm basing it on Bruce Gradkowski playing through 2 torn MCL's and Drew Brees supposedly having a torn MCL and not missing a single game this year.

If he didn't quit, then he's simply not tough. Should I have called him a wuss instead? Would that have been better?
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Want a better comparison than Rivers torn ACL game. How about Bruce Gradkowski finishing a game with both of his MCL's torn (fully torn in the left, partial in the right) for a 3 win Raiders team a few years back?
Cutler looked fine dropping back his last play of the game. Granted,the throw was awful and could have been because of planting on that knee, but a player who gives a crap at all would come off and say that it's fine and the trainers would have had to believed him because he didn't struggle in his dropback and was barely limping. He quit on his team, sorry.
You mean this injury in this game right...

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...n-both-knees/1

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Gradkowski tore his MCL in his left knee and partially tore the same ligament in his right knee. He hurt the left knee in the first quarter and the right later in the first half. He was replaced by former starter JaMarcus Russell.
Or was there another game where Gradkowski tore both his MCLs and then stayed in the entire game...?
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You mean this injury in this game right...

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...n-both-knees/1



Or was there another game where Gradkowski tore both his MCLs and then stayed in the entire game...?
sorry, just saw he tweeted that he played through 2 MCL tears, didn't look anything specific up. Didn't think Bruce Gradkowski would lie to me.
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Bears fans need to realize that Cutler isn't and never will be a franchise quarterback. He has one of the worst attitudes ive ever seen in a quarterback.
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