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Old 01-26-2011, 07:18 PM    (permalink
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I couldn't find any thread, so apologies if this has already been discussed.

Can someone provide some info on USC OT Tyron Smith? He seems to be a very intriguing prospect, particularly in this OT class.

I know he played RT for the Trojans, but he seems to have the athleticism to play LT and from all reports seems to have decent strength and leverage.

what is he like as a prospect?
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I like him a lot. He's obviously very athletic and pretty much looks like a tight end. You can read about that anywhere. Moves very well, quick feet, all that good stuff.

But his run blocking also looks excellent despite his size. He does a great job of getting his pad level low and getitng underneath defenders. He had a couple pancakes against Washington and consistently can drive defenders off the ball. He dominated Mason Foster.

He has a really good motor and his feet are always moving a hundred miles an hour.

Yeah, he's a smaller guy. I don't care. He's as good of a run blocker as a lot of the guys in this class.

I think he'll be an All-Star and wouldn't hesitate to put him as my #1 tackle.
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Couple updates on the guy:

- He has bulked up to 304 lbs.
- Might not run the 40 in combine due to knee procedure.

If the 304 is legit, that's pretty impressive.
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Couple updates on the guy:

- He has bulked up to 304 lbs.
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If the 304 is legit, that's pretty impressive.
if he weighs in at 304 then his stock just rose
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Couple updates on the guy:

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If the 304 is legit, that's pretty impressive.
Getting to 304 through mass training before the combine and maintaining 304 over the course of an NFL season are two completely different things.

I like him much more than I did Charles Brown last year. But I still think it will take a few seasons before he's anything other than a massive liability in the run game a la D'Brickashaw.
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if he weighs in at 304 then his stock just rose
He wants to weigh in at 310, so I guess he's pretty close.

If he doesn't lose any of his athleticism and speed after gaining 30 lbs., I'd be thoroughly impressed.
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Getting to 304 through mass training before the combine and maintaining 304 over the course of an NFL season are two completely different things.

I like him much more than I did Charles Brown last year. But I still think it will take a few seasons before he's anything other than a massive liability in the run game a la D'Brickashaw.
Because of his weight, Tyron gets the tag as a finesse player but is actually a much better run blocker than he gets credit for. He has very good natural strength,gets consistent push in the run game and is more than just a positional blocker. He's also one of the best OT's at the second level I can remember in recent years. Now I'm not under the impression that he's going to overpower guys at the next level (especially when he drops back down to 285 as the season goes on) but he'll be a stronger, more physical run blocker than D'Brick was early on in his career.
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Couple updates on the guy:

- He has bulked up to 304 lbs.
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If the 304 is legit, that's pretty impressive.
Just where did you hear this? I'll believe it when I see it

Can he gain 30 pounds without losing some of quickness and agility? Is it all muscle or will he just trim down once the season begins like D'brickashaw did? Will his high metabolism keep him from keeping his weight high in the NFL? Regardless, I really can't wait to see him at the combine.
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Not surprised at all, I've been saying he's guaranteed to be 300+ by the Combine.
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Me too. I have been telling a buddy of mine this for 2 months. He had since early December (thanks to USC probation and no bowl game) to simply work on bulking up and getting stronger. He declared really early and presumably got a head start working on the things to make himself more favorable to NFL eyes.
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Yeah in the run game he plows through guys, the guy is a bodybuilder, and his strength seems to translate. Its his so called athleticism that doesn't, you see flashes of it. He gets beat in the pass protection.

I think he is a great second round tackle someone who you don't need to play right away. He need technique work. I think the guy from Nova goes before him.
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Second Round? Try Top 15 - 20 Overall.
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I'm guessing he added a bit more muscle, but mainly fat/bulk?

Here's some footage on him.

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Scott, if he does indeed check in at 310 without losing speed/athleticism, could he go top 10?

And how does he compare to the top tackles from the past years? Like, if you had to rank Trent Williams, Russell Okung, Brian Bulaga, and those guys with Tyron Smith, where would he be?
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I'm guessing he added a bit more muscle, but mainly fat/bulk?
Well those pics are from high school so I would assume so.
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Yeah, I was just wondering if you guys thought he'd look as lean and ripped at the combine, or if he'd look a bit more ... offensive lineman like.

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I'm intrigued by him, think he has the skills to be a very good LT and his athleticism is very enticing. I would love a trade back to the teens to land this guy, I know he has concerns about his run blocking or strength but if he's in a spread offense I doubt you see those concerns come to light.
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looks like a smaller version of bruce campbell. unless he puts some weight on he wont be any better than bruce. hes the smallest Offensive lineman ive seen in years. and putting on 30 pounds in a span of 3 months isnt exactly good weight. intriguing prospect none the less
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looks like a smaller version of bruce campbell. unless he puts some weight on he wont be any better than bruce. hes the smallest Offensive lineman ive seen in years. and putting on 30 pounds in a span of 3 months isnt exactly good weight. intriguing prospect none the less
lol, no. Bruce Campbell sucked ass over and over and over. Tyron Smith shut down a top 10 pick in Cameron Jordan.

edit: if he is a legit 310 at the combine with high athleticism (with how garbage this tackle class is at the very top), he may have jumped in the top 10.
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looks like a smaller version of bruce campbell. unless he puts some weight on he wont be any better than bruce. hes the smallest Offensive lineman ive seen in years. and putting on 30 pounds in a span of 3 months isnt exactly good weight. intriguing prospect none the less
God damn, thank you. Somebody finally gets in. Like I keep saying, piling on weight for the combine weigh in and actually playing at that weight (and keeping it on over the course of a grueling 20 week NFL season are completely different things.

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