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Old 01-31-2011, 12:53 AM    (permalink
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I don't believe it.
It's true. We need to travel back to 1955 to get the sports almanac back from Biff.
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My hate for the Steelers only slightly trumps my love of the reaction of Packers fans on here after a Super Bowl loss. It's a win-win and a lose-lose for me at the same time.
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Give me Seymour/McGinest or Hampton/Harrison.
Seymour was drafted 7 years after Willie McGinest. Hampton was drafted in '01 while Harrison was an UDFA in 2002.

Everything you say is wrong
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HURRR DURRR You can't make threads about your favorite teams DERP DERP

/Sapp and Brooks FTW ;)
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I'll be a homer and toss out Ferguson and Mangold for the Jets in the '06 draft, they've panned out pretty well.
Coming from a Pats fan this wins easily. Getting the best C in the league and a top 5 LT is better than Matthews and Raji
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In 92 the combo of Alvin Harper and Russell Maryland looked like it would be one of the best of all time. So there's that.
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Coming from a Pats fan this wins easily. Getting the best C in the league and a top 5 LT is better than Matthews and Raji
Devin McCourty + Rob Gronkowski. Just give it time.

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Raji and Matthews definitely have the chance to become just as good as Sapp and Brooks.

If they do continue to play at a high level for the Packers for the next decade, it will most definitely be on par with the Sapp-Brooks draft, and maybe even exceed that draft's importance to its respective franchise.

Ted Thompson is a pretty bright guy.
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Coming from a Pats fan this wins easily. Getting the best C in the league and a top 5 LT is better than Matthews and Raji
Defense > Offense.

I'd much rather have an elite pass rusher and an elite nose tackle than any combination of two offensive linemen.
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Defense > Offense.

I'd much rather have an elite pass rusher and an elite nose tackle than any combination of two offensive linemen.
Lets not go overboard here and call Raji an elite NT just yet. And Im not sure I agree about pass rusher and NT being more important than offensive linemen. Really the most important thing to do in a league that favours passing attacks is keep your QB standing. Adding two franchise building cornerstones like Mangold and D'Brick who can do this is absolutely huge
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Raji and Matthews definitely have the chance to become just as good as Sapp and Brooks.

If they do continue to play at a high level for the Packers for the next decade, it will most definitely be on par with the Sapp-Brooks draft, and maybe even exceed that draft's importance to its respective franchise.

Ted Thompson is a pretty bright guy.
You just compared two second year guys, one who has only been a one year starter, to two first ballot hall of famers. Raji and Matthews are both very good players but this is seriously over the top
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Darrelle Revis and David Harris, not the same round but I don't care.
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in 1993 the Giants selected Strahan and Armstead in the 2nd and 8th rounds respectively. every other combo you mention ever will pale in comparison
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Coming from a Pats fan this wins easily. Getting the best C in the league and a top 5 LT is better than Matthews and Raji
There's a problem with that for me... One of them is a Center. A NT and premier pass rusher is much more valuable than a center/LT combo.
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There's a problem with that for me... One of them is a Center. A NT and premier pass rusher is much more valuable than a center/LT combo.
Im not sure I can agree with that. Especially when we are talking about the best center in the league. Fortifying the offensive line is a massive thing to do and if you get the two most important positions in one round of the same draft, then that is quite frankly awesome. If Matthews continues to be one of the top defensive players in the league and Raji progresses into one of the top NTs then Ill reconsider my thinking here, but as of now I don't think they're as good a pairing as Ferguson and Mangold.
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**** duos, how about trios?

Cutler, Marshall, Dumervil. Eat my ****, ****heads.
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Cutler, Marshall, Dumervil. Eat my ****, ****heads.
It doesnt count if they aren't still with the team. That means you are just counting an uno.
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There's a problem with that for me... One of them is a Center. A NT and premier pass rusher is much more valuable than a center/LT combo.
wait...really?
like...really?
jesus christ, this type of homerism isn't even funny. at least make a BJ or Clay matthews sex hair joke if we're going to be unleashing homerism here.
trust me, i'm a doctor (with a phd in homerism)
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Im not sure I can agree with that.

When is the last time you saw a center go in the top 10?

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like...really?
jesus christ, this type of homerism isn't even funny. at least make a BJ or Clay matthews sex hair joke if we're going to be unleashing homerism here.
trust me, i'm a doctor (with a phd in homerism)
It's not homerism, it's an opinion.


Also, some food for thought ( Not to be taken as overly indicative of what is the more valuable duo). The team with Clay and Raji is in the super bowl, the team with Mangold and Ferg isn't.
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For the Saints at least
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When is the last time you saw a center go in the top 10?
True, but with the exception of Raji how many 34 NTs go top ten? Since 2000 I cant find any others. Gerard Warren went top ten but that was to play in a 43, same as Dewayne Robertson.
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