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Old 12-12-2011, 08:49 AM    (permalink
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He's going to be a stud. To be fair though, he missed a # of blocks last night, but I'll chalk that up to growing pains.

Prince on the other hand.....he looks slow. I just don't see us getting any significant contributions from him this year. He looks stiff too.
Yea, he didn't look great last night. I'll give him a slight reprieve on that first long reception as I'm not sure whos fault it was (god damn zones). The 2nd one he was beat, but it shouldn't have been that long of a gain (we can't let romo have 9 seconds to throw). I was pleased he was able to track Robinson down though. That showed some speed.

He has impressed me as a tackler and his ball skills look pretty good, hopefully his coverage improves.
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If you watched Prince in college, you could tell he was getting burned easily by the faster WRs, but he looked like an elite prospect because he played so physical and jammed WRs at the line of scrimmage.

I thought he was overrated as an *elite* prospect but could be a solid Cover-2 guy or slot corner, which would not really make him worth a first round pick, imho.
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Eli and JPP are amazing, that goes without saying. Credit to Jacobs for running tough for 2 weeks in a row too.

But guys, this defense is just awful. Absolutely awful. Front 7 is soft, we can't tackle, our LBs don't hit the hole, they wait for the RB to come to them, our secondary isn't willing to tackle, our safeties need to fill in gaps better, just a finesse, soft defense.

And Perry Fewell is absolutely horrible. He called basic Tampa or Cover 3 on 80% of our snaps. It was the most basic defense I've seen from us since Tim Lewis. It was awful.

This defense is too talented to play this bad. Tuck needs to go on IR, he's just out there, no effort from him. The scheme is horrible, and our back 7 is soft.

We need a new set of linebackers who are tough who can tackle and hit the gaps and stop the run. We didn't play an 8 man front ALL NIGHT. Even in obvious run situations. It was sad.

Just bad coordination, bad play, bad everything. Our defense is awful. There's no denying it. It starts with Fewell. 80% of it is Fewell, but there's still plays that need to be made on the field and guys aren't making them.

We need to revamp that entire LB core.
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Revamping the LB core starts with moving Kiwi back to DE. I understand the idea that you want your best players on the field, but the guy is a DE trying to fake OLB.

I don't see Osi back next year. There are plenty of snaps with Tuck-JPP-Kiwi-Tolly as our DEs. Boley is really our only LB, with Williams looking good in coverage. We still need a MLB and another OLB who can play the run. I think those 2 spots should be our focus this off season. Everything else kind of sorts itself out with players returning from injury.
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We need to sell out and get Luke Keuchly. Enough of sitting on our picks, Reese needs to actively and aggressively go after Luke this year.

We've ignored this need long enough and it's time to go fix this position.
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We need to sell out and get Luke Keuchly. Enough of sitting on our picks, Reese needs to actively and aggressively go after Luke this year.

We've ignored this need long enough and it's time to go fix this position.

Don't be ridiculous BBD, we'll draft whoever is highest on big board, grab a 4th round linebacker and sign a 1 yr veteran stop gap. Duh.


Anyway the only really needs I see are OL and LB, that should be our focus round 1-3.
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If Manningham catches that TD, we lose. How embarrassing is that.
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Props to Jacobs for playing well! JPP and Eli carried this team! Great individual performance!!
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Props to Jacobs for playing well! JPP and Eli carried this team! Great individual performance!!
Did you hear Collingsworth say if he doesn't make the Pro Bowl there should be an investigation?
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Did you hear Collingsworth say if he doesn't make the Pro Bowl there should be an investigation?
Well start the investigation because JPP is not even on the ballot.
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It's a joke. The only chance we ever have of winning this whole season is if we have the ball down by a score with 2 minutes to go. We have to ask Eli to win us the game every week.

It's a joke.
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It's a joke. The only chance we ever have of winning this whole season is if we have the ball down by a score with 2 minutes to go. We have to ask Eli to win us the game every week.

It's a joke.
Eli was frustrated by that. Watch the presser after the game. He said he is tired of coming back like that. It would be nice to hold a lead.


Telling words, I am sure it is talked about among the offensive players and even the offensive staff. The D stinks so bad, that it messes up what you want to call because they can't stop anyone!
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Eli was frustrated by that. Watch the presser after the game. He said he is tired of coming back like that. It would be nice to hold a lead.


Telling words, I am sure it is talked about among the offensive players and even the offensive staff. The D stinks so bad, that it messes up what you want to call because they can't stop anyone!
Eli has 6 game winning drives this season. We have 7 wins. So basically, if Eli doesn't have the ball with 2 minutes left, we lose.

It's sad.
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This is the first time we've ever had 2 1,000 yard WR's in one year. I found that to be interesting.
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Eli will have a career high in passing yards this season!
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He's also on pace now with Brees, Brady, and Rodgers to break Marino's record.
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With the last 3 games in the Meadowlands I can see that slowing down a little.
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He's also on pace now with Brees, Brady, and Rodgers to break Marino's record.
It really is great stuff! That's how good our QB can be, and it only took a bad running game for his production and talent to be known outside the fan base. That's why I want a system change. Use our franchise QB, otherwise it's a waste. Let him get the stats like the other QBs do. We could have easily thrown in the red zone more. All the other systems have their Qbs do it.

That's why, in a way, I want a new system. We can be SOO much better offensively. Not prone to stalling out.
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Eli has 6 game winning drives this season. We have 7 wins. So basically, if Eli doesn't have the ball with 2 minutes left, we lose.

It's sad.

It does suck that I have no faith in our defense. At least we sold out blitz on that last play to Miles. Yup he was wide open, but guess what, Romo didn't hit him. If he has more time, I'm confident he makes that first down, even if we had dropped into coverage. Pressure means mistakes. I'd rather get burnt that way.
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We need to sell out and get Luke Keuchly. Enough of sitting on our picks, Reese needs to actively and aggressively go after Luke this year.

We've ignored this need long enough and it's time to go fix this position.
Not happening. The Eagles will draft Kuechly before the Giants have an opportunity to do so.
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Nothing for nothing guys, but our run game has picked up dramaticly since Petrus and Diehl got in the lineup.

Makes me wonder how much of our running woes were the result of Beatty.
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You guys need a quarterback. This season is probably your best chance to get one.
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Nothing for nothing guys, but our run game has picked up dramaticly since Petrus and Diehl got in the lineup.

Makes me wonder how much of our running woes were the result of Beatty.
Eh, I'd say Petrus replacing Diehl at G has more to do it then Diehl replacing Beatty at T. Diehl looked lost at G. Other then the 1 play by Ratliff, Boothe held his own as well.
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Eh, I'd say Petrus replacing Diehl at G has more to do it then Diehl replacing Beatty at T. Diehl looked lost at G. Other then the 1 play by Ratliff, Boothe held his own as well.
Except he can't snap. It almost cost us.
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You guys need a quarterback. This season is probably your best chance to get one.
Vick is perfectly capable of winning a Super Bowl. If the defense coordinator was even remotely competent and the LBers and safeties were NFL caliber starters, the team would probably be 9-3 right now.
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