New York Giants Discussion - Page 135

BigBlueNorwegian · 12-18-2011, 04:38 AM

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If I remember correctly Boley has had problems before with his family, and what was his suspension for a year or two ago?

yeah, for beating his wife or something?

Rosebud · 12-18-2011, 08:25 AM

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I didn't read the article but believe it or not TMZ is usually 99% accurate.

Well they're just reporting what the woman is claiming, not the truth of her claims.

bigbluedefense · 12-18-2011, 11:45 AM

Cold and windy. Advantage Washington.

CDCB14 · 12-18-2011, 01:35 PM

This start to the game probably makes you guys feel liek Cowboys fans lol. Worst possible luck that can happen. I doubt this continues though, Eli will pull it together.

singe_101 · 12-18-2011, 02:23 PM

3 points for the Giants with 11:15 to play? 3?

Their playoffs basically started, and this might bounce them. Down 20

BigBlueNorwegian · 12-18-2011, 02:43 PM

This team is soft as hell, from top to bottom. We got swept by the Redskins. we are 0-2 against Rex Grossman. I'm done hoping this season can be good. I hope we don't have to see some team whooping our asses in the playoffs, because that means Coughlin and Fewell keeps their jobs. If that happens we have to endure another year with this misery. No way. No ******* way.

Big_Pete · 12-18-2011, 04:05 PM

This team is way too soft. What happened to the physical style of play that the giants and Coughlin's teams are known for?

Sure we have issues in our secondary, but we still have talent there. Webster and four 1st round picks (Phillips, Rolle, Ross and Amukamara), why can't we cover anyone?

NY+Giants=NYG · 12-18-2011, 04:09 PM

I love TC, but clean slate! Operation clean slate should be initiated!

Rosebud · 12-18-2011, 04:43 PM

Does Nicks remind anyone else of Shockey? Good size, great strength and athleticism to go up and get the ball, really tough runner with the ball in his hands, just all around physical, but suffers brainfarts that lead to his drops and mis-reads. It's like he's all focused and then *click* he's zoned out for a second before remembering where he is. Still getting over this loss but that's just something that I'm curious whether anyone else thinks makes sense.

As for the game itself, I just want a DC who'll attack teams like Zimmer or Spags, Killdrive's routes hurt us this game but we shouldn't need to win shutouts every week. That's on Fewell and the defensive play calling.

I've even warmed up to the idea of Cowher since he somehow managed to convince LeBeau to spend an eternity as his DC and if he could do the same with Spags or someone like Zimmer I'd be eternally grateful. Sure getting one of those two as our HC would be the dream, but that's too much to ask for.

Rosebud · 12-18-2011, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by singe_101

3 points for the Giants with 11:15 to play? 3?

Their playoffs basically started, and this might bounce them. Down 20

Eh, not quite. If they win their last two games they're in. Now their playoffs have started and any loss ends our season.

BaLLiN · 12-18-2011, 07:29 PM

If we lose these next two games we will probably pick around 15ish, maybe lower.

NY+Giants=NYG · 12-19-2011, 09:34 AM

FIRE THEM ALL! I am tired of this act. This is coming from someone who really likes COughlin. But it's time for a change!

Giantsfan1080 · 12-19-2011, 09:40 AM

I just want to see what we do with the last 2 games before I make up my mind. Going to be a good one on Saturday though with two teams fighting for their playoff lives.

NY+Giants=NYG · 12-19-2011, 09:42 AM

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I just want to see what we do with the last 2 games before I make up my mind. Going to be a good one on Saturday though with two teams fighting for their playoff lives.

It's going to be a mess... They will blitz us left and right, and I hate to see how our OL does. I have seen enough from this team. Up and Down, UP and Down, UP and Down. This defense seems like it will turn on each other.

Jughead10 · 12-19-2011, 09:43 AM

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It's going to be a mess... They will blitz us left and right, and I hate to see how our OL does. I have seen enough from this team. Up and Down, UP and Down, UP and Down. This defense seems like it will turn on each other.

Offensively I'm not worried. If they blitz us left and right Eli will find the open men. I could see an ugly game for Cromartie. I'm just worried about making Sanchez look like John Elway.

That was really a freak game offensively. The only problem is, is that when the offense plays like that, we have 0% chance of winning. Nothing to fall back on.

Giantsfan1080 · 12-19-2011, 09:48 AM

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Offensively I'm not worried. If they blitz us left and right Eli will find the open men. I could see an ugly game for Cromartie. I'm just worried about making Sanchez look like John Elway.

That was really a freak game offensively. The only problem is, is that when the offense plays like that, we have 0% chance of winning. Nothing to fall back on.

Exactly. You would think the defense could step up against the likes of Grossman but nope. I think we match pretty well with the Jets though.

NY+Giants=NYG · 12-19-2011, 09:50 AM

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Offensively I'm not worried. If they blitz us left and right Eli will find the open men. I could see an ugly game for Cromartie. I'm just worried about making Sanchez look like John Elway.

That was really a freak game offensively. The only problem is, is that when the offense plays like that, we have 0% chance of winning. Nothing to fall back on.

We can't rely on that week after week. And I know we love to go deep, but don't we have short passes? Slants? Curls, comebacks? Everything is likle 40 yards downfield!

He will look like Elway with this defense. Keller will find the holes in this stupid scheme and zone.

I want a clean slate and finally put in a QB friendly system. It angers me that Eli gets us close, and then we decide to run the ball. Give him a TD! Meanwhile they pad Brees's stats and gets 5 tds! 55555555555555!!!!!

I hate our system, boom or bust nonsense, and finally it went BUST!

Mario is a pain in the nuts! Can you please run the right route? If not, let's see how he does in a new system where he doesn't have to use his brain!

Giantsfan1080 · 12-19-2011, 09:53 AM

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We can't rely on that week after week. And I know we love to go deep, but don't we have short passes? Slants? Curls, comebacks? Everything is likle 40 yards downfield!

He will look like Elway with this defense. Keller will find the holes in this stupid scheme and zone.

I want a clean slate and finally put in a QB friendly system. It angers me that Eli gets us close, and then we decide to run the ball. Give him a TD! Meanwhile they pad Brees's stats and gets 5 tds! 55555555555555!!!!!

I hate our system, boom or bust nonsense, and finally it went BUST!

Mario is a pain in the nuts! Can you please run the right route? If not, let's see how he does in a new system where he doesn't have to use his brain!

He probably won't be on the team next year. You'll have to see him in a different system on a new team.

NY+Giants=NYG · 12-19-2011, 10:05 AM

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He probably won't be on the team next year. You'll have to see him in a different system on a new team.

I liked him a lot, but I think I am done with him. Let him walk, insert Barden, get rid of Beckum, and let's find another TE.

Jughead10 · 12-19-2011, 10:13 AM

Bring Steve Smith back too.

NY+Giants=NYG · 12-19-2011, 10:17 AM

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Bring Steve Smith back too.

Not adverse to that option. However he has an uphill battle. I am more inclined to develop JJ or play barden than Smith.

If it is a clean slate, then this scheme and system is gone. So that absolute adv. he once had understanding this is now gone. If we install a system like everyone else where speed and getting seperation is key, then now he is just "another guy" in this system.

So let's see how it plays out.

Giantsfan1080 · 12-19-2011, 10:18 AM

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Not adverse to that option. However he has an uphill battle. I am more inclined to develop JJ or play barden than Smith.

If it is a clean slate, then this scheme and system is gone. So that absolute adv. he once had understanding this is now gone. If we install a system like everyone else where speed and getting seperation is key, then now he is just "another guy" in this system.

So let's see how it plays out.

Great point. The only reason to bring Smith back is if Gilbride is still OC.

NY+Giants=NYG · 12-19-2011, 10:23 AM

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Great point. The only reason to bring Smith back is if Gilbride is still OC.

Yes I said yes, and then I thought.. wait, why bring him back in another system? He was never a burner, not tall, and now if the system changes he won't be the first in line.

Barden has height... Nicks, Cruz, JJ, have size and/or speed. Smith is coming off an injury as well. Not sure if he would be useful in a new system. His niche was with ours system, where he would be where he needed to be, and understand the WR rules, specifically the sight adjustments. That's the selling point. That allowed 3rd down success. However, if the scheme changes, than what's the selling point?

scottyboy · 12-19-2011, 10:25 AM

JJ is gonna be good. I can feel it. He looked more comfortable on the kick returns yesterday. I wanna see him and Eli really develop

NY+Giants=NYG · 12-19-2011, 10:29 AM

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JJ is gonna be good. I can feel it. He looked more comfortable on the kick returns yesterday. I wanna see him and Eli really develop

I'd like to see him run slants, and see how fast he can be. God, I really want to see how guys can do in a different, Qb friendly scheme..Saints scheme would be great! They go OUT of their way to pad Brees's stats!