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Old 02-16-2012, 08:29 AM    (permalink
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I'm not sold on Sanu yet. I'd like to see what he runs. He seems slow to me.

Also Mayock was ripping your ASU boy, BBD.
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I'm not sold on Sanu yet. I'd like to see what he runs. He seems slow to me.

Also Mayock was ripping your ASU boy, BBD.
He'll run faster than everyone thinks. He's a great athlete. I saw him run down Tim Brown his FR year when Brown was going full speed.
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I'm not worried about Sanu's speed. He'll be fine.

And yeah, Mayock shitted on Taze. I need to see some games from the guy. I saw 1 game, and a highlight reel. Hardly enough to make a proper judgement on the guy.

But ASU barely plays on national TV. So I'm gonna have a hard time tracking down any tv footage of the guy.
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Reese knows what he's doing, i agree that we see restructures across the board. Isn't Rolle receiving less this year? If I remember correctly he had a front loaded contract.

Cruz and JPP should get extensions right away.
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Rolle has the 2nd biggest cap hit this year. It's at $9,100,000 million this year and goes up $200,000 the next 2 years.
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yeah...thats a lot... Kenny Phillips deserves that contract waaaay more than Rolle. But oh well.

I think Sanu is a good player, but I don't see the open field running that our other receivers do so well. Thats not a question of speed, its a question of wiggle and deception.
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Also when I think of it, Moss would be amazing for this offense except that his route tree is very limited. Although Eli, one of the best deep ball QB's in the league right now, + Moss, the best deep ball WR ever = not fair.
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yeah...thats a lot... Kenny Phillips deserves that contract waaaay more than Rolle. But oh well.

I think Sanu is a good player, but I don't see the open field running that our other receivers do so well. Thats not a question of speed, its a question of wiggle and deception.
I don't think KP deserves it more than Rolle. Rolle seems to be everywhere even on the LOS and he is the vocal leader. KP's potential seemed to be cut by his injury. I still remember reading mini camp, and training camp reports about KP. Guy was amazing! It seems like he is invisible out there at times. Maybe it's a function of him being 2938190238912 yards back of the LOS, but I feel like he went from someone with sick potential to just avg to above avg.
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I don't think KP deserves it more than Rolle. Rolle seems to be everywhere even on the LOS and he is the vocal leader. KP's potential seemed to be cut by his injury. I still remember reading mini camp, and training camp reports about KP. Guy was amazing! It seems like he is invisible out there at times. Maybe it's a function of him being 2938190238912 yards back of the LOS, but I feel like he went from someone with sick potential to just avg to above avg.
I agree with this. Rolle is one of my favorite players on the Giants. He is awesome, and we desperately need his presence in the backfield both on and off the field. It was such a shame what happened to Phillips, because he was about to break out in a big way when he got injured. But he's still a good player, like you said here!
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I know it will never happen, but I dream of this guy on the outside opposite Nicks with Cruz in the slot:

If only we had more money this offseason
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Yeah that would be awesome! If we had the cap space and offered him a contract we would only have to give up #32 in this draft. That would be worth it to say the least. I think the Patriots are going to make him an offer if the Steelers doesn't tag him.
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http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...ge-payday.html

Why Cruz won't get a huge payday article.
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Boy, were we in rough shape when Coughlin arrived in 2004!

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and will peterson bought my aunt her dog, so he's all good in my book
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Except Will Allen couldn't cover and Will Peterson couldn't stay healthy.
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Allen couldn't cover the deep ball because the WR's would turn him around. He was pretty good on guys ove the middle on intermediate and short routes.
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i still remember that one game where santana moss ABUSED allen for 3 td's. one allen just got completely spun around on a ball in the air. it was brutal
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That may have been the last time Santana abused anyone in this league other than the Cowboys.
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Will Allen was the best tackling Giants CB I've seen.
What about T2?
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Thomas is good but I've still seen him miss a lot of tackles. I don't want to bash Thomas but he became very overrated in my opinion. A lot of people were calling him better than Webster and said he was our #1 CB which was never true. He's a great #2 and I want him back but he was and never will be better than Webster.
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Thomas is good but I've still seen him miss a lot of tackles. I don't want to bash Thomas but he became very overrated in my opinion. A lot of people were calling him better than Webster and said he was our #1 CB which was never true. He's a great #2 and I want him back but he was and never will be better than Webster.
I agree on some levels. He was not as good or better than Webster and wasn't our #1 CB, but he was well on his way to becoming our #1 CB if he didn't get hurt.
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Thomas is a very good #2 CB. He was never as good as Webster. What was nice about the Web/TT combo was you could mix your coverages based on matchups.

Thomas could take on the bigger WRs that Webster has a harder time with, Web can take on the shifty quicker guys.

In general, Thomas was our turnover guy in the secondary. He and Webster balanced eachother out perfectly. Web would lock down a guy, Thomas would get those turnovers and matchup vs bigger guys. It was great balance.
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