New York Giants Discussion - Page 18

Giantsfan1080 · 07-26-2011, 11:47 AM

Well I didn't realize Tolly was a FA so I bet we replace him with Trattou. Chase is a FA also so I hope we can get him back.

LTgiants · 07-26-2011, 12:24 PM

HERZ!!!!!!!

Giantsfan1080 · 07-26-2011, 02:24 PM

Sounds like we might cut O'Hara also.

Forenci · 07-26-2011, 02:32 PM

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Sounds like we might cut O'Hara also.

Hopefully he stays cut. He's been a great Giants player for a long time but his skills have deteriorated so much over the past few years. I'm worried if we re-sign him the Giants will have him as the starter simply because of his standing and leadership on the field. We really need to upgrade the position.

scottyboy · 07-26-2011, 03:30 PM

so we cut O'Hara and Seubert. 2 of my favorite players. ****.

oh and osi holding out? even better.

****, I think I need a new favorite Giant, ugh

bigbluedefense · 07-26-2011, 03:31 PM

I'm actually glad we cut O'Hara. His time is up. I want us to bring Richy back for cheaper, which I think will happen, but O'Hara was holding us back.

Thanks for the memories O'Hara, we appreciate what you did, but it's time to move on.

What is troubling though is, with Richy and O'Hara gone, we only have 1 Center on the roster, and he blew out his knee during the season.

It makes me wonder if we're positioning ourselves to go after a C in FA.

NY+Giants=NYG · 07-26-2011, 03:34 PM

Fix the OL! Come on!

bigbluedefense · 07-26-2011, 03:37 PM

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Fix the OL! Come on!

Have faith in the young guys bro. Petrus can replace Richy no problem. Koets can replace O'Hara (if healthy).

I'm just worried about our LT spot. Beatty better step up this year.

bigbluedefense · 07-26-2011, 03:38 PM

I wouldn't mind going after Nick Barnett. I always liked Barnett. He's a very good MIKE.

scottyboy · 07-26-2011, 03:39 PM

Beatty-Diehl-Koets-Snee-McKenzie

with Petrus in the wings? Or Diehl to LT with Petrus at LG?
geez, I just don't know.

Also, we need to end the offseason with either Bradshaw or DeAngelo Williams. end of story

LTgiants · 07-26-2011, 03:41 PM

Need to get a LB would like to get James Anderson.

Jughead10 · 07-26-2011, 03:41 PM

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Beatty-Diehl-Koets-Snee-McKenzie

with Petrus in the wings? Or Diehl to LT with Petrus at LG?
geez, I just don't know.

Also, we need to end the offseason with either Bradshaw or DeAngelo Williams. end of story

I'd rather take my chances with this. The unknown (Petrus at LG) is more appealing than the known (Beatty at LT) to me.

scottyboy · 07-26-2011, 03:42 PM

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I'd rather take my chances with this. The unknown (Petrus at LG) is more appealing than the known (Beatty at LT) to me.

I fully agree with this one. At least it's nice to know the right side was the best in football last year. Hopefully they can keep it up.

Jughead10 · 07-26-2011, 03:44 PM

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I fully agree with this one. At least it's nice to know the right side was the best in football last year. Hopefully they can keep it up.

They've been the best in football for quite a few years now.

scottyboy · 07-26-2011, 03:45 PM

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They've been the best in football for quite a few years now.

well...when K-Mac's been healty *knocks on wood*

bigbluedefense · 07-26-2011, 03:53 PM

Best at run blocking. McKenzie has always had trouble with speed rushers, his pass pro was average.

I still remember the Colts game from last year, when both Diehl and McKenzie were getting destroyed on every single play bc neither could handle speed at this point in their careers.

It's a scary thought to have both as our OTs next year.

Jughead10 · 07-26-2011, 03:55 PM

That's true. I always just think run first.

bigbluedefense · 07-26-2011, 04:08 PM

I prefer a dominant run blocking offense over a dominant pass protecting one, so I hear ya.

I just want my LT to be a very good pass protector and my RT to be good enough in pass pro.

Anyone else think we should take a look at Nick Barnett?

Rosebud · 07-26-2011, 04:23 PM

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I'd rather take my chances with this. The unknown (Petrus at LG) is more appealing than the known (Beatty at LT) to me.

I'm sorry but there's no way in hell you can say Beatty is a known, he has looked really good at some times and really under-sized at others. His play has been so sporadic and inconsistent that there's no way to know what he'll actually provide. You calling him a known at this point in his career, not a year from now, but right now, is absurd. Just as absurd as if I was to claim that Beatty-Petrus-Koets-Snee-Diehl will be the best line in football next year.

Jughead10 · 07-26-2011, 04:32 PM

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I'm sorry but there's no way in hell you can say Beatty is a known, he has looked really good at some times and really under-sized at others. His play has been so sporadic and inconsistent that there's no way to know what he'll actually provide. You calling him a known at this point in his career, not a year from now, but right now, is absurd. Just as absurd as if I was to claim that Beatty-Petrus-Koets-Snee-Diehl will be the best line in football next year.

Well nothing I have seen from Beatty has really impressed me at all, outside of that one time when he didn't get beat on the same move twice and the announcers made a huge deal about it. I'd rather take my chances with Petrus. The learning curve of the position is easier too for Petrus. For someone undersized we thought runblocking would be an issue for Beatty, except that he hasn't really shined at all with his pass blocking either.

Giantsfan1080 · 07-26-2011, 04:34 PM

I'm with Jughead also on this. I liked what I've seen out of Petrus more than I've seen out of Beatty at this point.

Giantsfan1080 · 07-26-2011, 05:04 PM

Sounds like we might re-sign Smith to a 1 year deal so we can see how his knee is.

OSUGiants17 · 07-26-2011, 05:14 PM

I think a 1 year deal is ideal for Smith. If we notice he isn't completely healed by this time next year we can let him walk. Jerrel Jernigan and Mario will have had more time to develop as well as Nicks. This year, I just don't trust the guys we have(outside of Nicks) too much. If we let Smith walk, we lose a guy who has great chemistry with Eli, and lose our only slot receiver. Sure Jernigan and Mario could turn into our slot guy, but right now I don't trust either of them to replace Smith(and god forbid Nicks if he goes down)

Giantsfan1080 · 07-26-2011, 05:23 PM

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I think a 1 year deal is ideal for Smith. If we notice he isn't completely healed by this time next year we can let him walk. Jerrel Jernigan and Mario will have had more time to develop as well as Nicks. This year, I just don't trust the guys we have(outside of Nicks) too much. If we let Smith walk, we lose a guy who has great chemistry with Eli, and lose our only slot receiver. Sure Jernigan and Mario could turn into our slot guy, but right now I don't trust either of them to replace Smith(and god forbid Nicks if he goes down)

I agree with everything but don't forget about Barden also. I think he steps it up this year as well.

NY+Giants=NYG · 07-26-2011, 05:34 PM

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Have faith in the young guys bro. Petrus can replace Richy no problem. Koets can replace O'Hara (if healthy).

I'm just worried about our LT spot. Beatty better step up this year.

Petrus I will interested in at LG. Center, I don't want an injured koets with little to no experience, lol. No Thanks! he will be going against elite 1 and 0 T throughout the year. Get me a guy healthy and with experience if we can. If not, then healthy but someone who played the position throughout his career either in college or pros.