New York Giants Discussion - Page 27

bigbluedefense · 07-31-2011, 02:54 PM

I just think father time catches up to McKenzie this year. I love his run blocking, but the guy is an average pass protector and isn't getting any younger.

NY+Giants=NYG · 07-31-2011, 02:56 PM

Well maybe our project pick next year will pan out, lol. Never fear friend! We will always go developmental pick.

LTgiants · 07-31-2011, 03:11 PM

David Carr apparently might be coming back.

bigbluedefense · 07-31-2011, 04:20 PM

I don't mind it. Once he got cut, I had a feeling we'd take a look at him. It was a mutually beneficial relationship. He was growing under our system, and we got a great scout team qb during practice.

Make him and Sage compete for the backup spot. Best man wins.

We're also looking at Ben Patrick. Could be legit interest, could also be a ploy to gain leverage on Boss in negotiations.

I am a little disturbed by the fact that Boss, Smith, Bradshaw, nor Prince has signed yet.

I guess all 4 of them are using the Aug. 5th leverage to their advantage with contract negotiations. Even if they sign now, they can't practice till the 5th so I guess they're all trying to buy as much time as they can to drive up their price.

LTgiants · 07-31-2011, 05:29 PM

ClaytonESPN John Clayton
During the conversation between the Giants and Osi U, the team told him if they would shop him they would ask for a No. 1 pick

and

Jason Snelling possibly to the Giants

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...e-possibility/

BaLLiN · 07-31-2011, 10:21 PM

Well i could see the ravens possibly giving us a #1, but Seattle? They most likely wont make the playoffs.

If they do offer a first round pick, I take it and run. Thats easily a top 15 pick w/ them playing two strong divisions (AFC North and NFC EAST) and ATL and CHI.

Giantsfan1080 · 08-01-2011, 11:21 AM

The Giants told Osi's agent he can seek a trade. I really think it's a big mistake to let him go even though he's acting like a baby. The strength of our team is the D-Line and with Osi out and 1 injury to Tuck, Kiwi, or JPP we completely lose that.

BigBlueNorwegian · 08-01-2011, 11:24 AM

If the Seahawks offer up a first, we need to take it without hesitation. They are probably going to be among the bottom five teams this season. But hopefully, we find a way to solve the situation and keep Osi without having to break the bank. He needs to understand that the Giants have a tough cap situation and still have important free agents to resign.

And we need to resign Smith, Boss and Bradshaw. We can't downgrade our skill positions on offense while the Eagles keep stacking up on defense.

EDIT: Damn, saw the news right after i posted. Well this means JPP better live up to his potential this season, or we're screwed. I don't think we can count on Kiwi with that type of injury(hope i'm wrong here)

Jughead10 · 08-01-2011, 11:42 AM

Fewell admitted to protecting Phillips last year after his knee injury and this year will be able to let him loose again. Sounds like he's a lot better a full year removed.

Giantsfan1080 · 08-01-2011, 11:54 AM

If we get rid of Osi we're going to need a new DE. Are there any good ones available still?

Jughead10 · 08-01-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

If we get rid of Osi we're going to need a new DE. Are there any good ones available still?

I don't think we absolutely need another one. Especially if we scrap the Sintim LB project and just let him rush the passer as a 3rd down guy. There are a lot of other DEs on this roster I know nothing about. Maybe one of them shows enough to make the team and be a project.

BigBlueNorwegian · 08-01-2011, 12:01 PM

Well, Andre Carter is still out there i Think. He's old, and failed in the 3-4 in washington last year. But I think he can still be a good situational player in a 4-3 defense.

Giantsfan1080 · 08-01-2011, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10

I don't think we absolutely need another one. Especially if we scrap the Sintim LB project and just let him rush the passer as a 3rd down guy.

We have Kiwi and Tuck who are both hurt most of the time. If one of them goes down then the strength of our team goes to crap in a hurry.

Forenci · 08-01-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10

Fewell admitted to protecting Phillips last year after his knee injury and this year will be able to let him loose again. Sounds like he's a lot better a full year removed.

A fully healthy Kenny Phillips (that is unleashed) would literally make me cry tears of joy.

KENNY!

Damix · 08-01-2011, 12:20 PM

Makes me wish I got a KP jersey instead of JPP last year. Especially since the JPP got screwed up ha

Giantsfan1080 · 08-01-2011, 12:37 PM

Phillips should beast again this year. Our secondary is very underrated especially when Prince or Ross is going to be our dime guy.

Giantsfan1080 · 08-01-2011, 12:38 PM

Randy Moss retired also so BBD can put that one to rest.

Jughead10 · 08-01-2011, 12:40 PM

I saw a report that said Bruce Johnson has impressed so far in camp. Although only a few practices. But it would be nice if he could bounce back a bit after a slower sophomore season. Especially if he's our fifth CB. Assuming we even have room on the roster for one.

BigBlueNorwegian · 08-01-2011, 12:42 PM

BREAKING: RB Ahmad Bradshaw has agreed to terms with the Giants. #nyg

From Mike Garafolo's twitter account! Great to have him back. No word on contract terms yet.

OSUGiants17 · 08-01-2011, 12:45 PM

I would hate to see Osi go, but if he does here's how I would love for things to play out.

- Trade Osi to Seattle for a 1st
- Move Sintim to DE
- Sign Lawson or McIntosh to play opposite of Boley
- Re-Sign Bradshaw, Boss and Smith

2012:
- Draft Burfict, Kuechly, Te'o, or a franchise Lineman with Seattle's top 15 pick
- Draft Richardson with our pick in the 20-32 range
- Trade/Cut Jacobs

Malaka · 08-01-2011, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10

I saw a report that said Bruce Johnson has impressed so far in camp. Although only a few practices. But it would be nice if he could bounce back a bit after a slower sophomore season. Especially if he's our fifth CB. Assuming we even have room on the roster for one.

We definitely should Ross is probably gone next year, and so if Bruce impresses he can fill in for Ross as the dime guy.

Next years battle at corner will be really interesting. Prince v. Webster v. Thomas.

EDIT: Yeah, I agree, if we trade Osi I think we should definitely think about picking up a guy like Lawson and putting him at SLB.

BigBlueNorwegian · 08-01-2011, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OSUGiants17

I would hate to see Osi go, but if he does here's how I would love for things to play out.

- Trade Osi to Seattle for a 1st
- Move Sintim to DE
- Sign Lawson or McIntosh to play opposite of Boley
- Re-Sign Bradshaw, Boss and Smith

2012:
- Draft Burfict, Kuechly, Te'o, or a franchise Lineman with Seattle's top 15 pick
- Draft Richardson with our pick in the 20-32 range
- Trade/Cut Jacobs

That sounds awesome!!

OSUGiants17 · 08-01-2011, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBlueNorwegian

BREAKING: RB Ahmad Bradshaw has agreed to terms with the Giants. #nyg

From Mike Garafolo's twitter account! Great to have him back. No word on contract terms yet.

Thank God! Now I can finally buy my Bradshaw jersey. I was woried about it for the past year and a half that I would yet again buy a jersey only to have the player to switch teams(i.e Roy Williams Lions, Reggie Bush Saints, Chad Ochocinco Bengals, Plax Giants, Alfonso Soriano Yankees, my list goes on lol)

Forenci · 08-01-2011, 12:47 PM

Woo! Bradshaw! Any details on the financials of it? Now we need to get Steve Smith locked up ASAP.

Jughead10 · 08-01-2011, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OSUGiants17

Thank God! Now I can finally buy my Bradshaw jersey. I was woried about it for the past year and a half that I would yet again buy a jersey only to have the player to switch teams(i.e Roy Williams Lions, Reggie Bush Saints, Chad Ochocinco Bengals, Plax Giants, Alfonso Soriano Yankees, my list goes on lol)

Haha. I bought a Bradshaw jersey the day after we won the Super Bowl. Now I don't have to stop wearing it.