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08-17-2011, 10:01 AM
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Interesting to see this. I counted 16 INTs that you could blame Eli fully or partially for. But some of those were desperation throws, and I have no problem with trying to make a play for your team when you're down big. like three of the picks against Green Bay(one of those weren't even an INT really, He stepped out of bounds but the Giants were out of challenges).
I fully believe he will throw between 12-17 INTs this year, and improve a lot. But I think he will also throw for less yards and TDs this year.
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08-17-2011, 12:29 PM
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yeah well lets just take out 6 INTs. Had Eli thrown 31 TDs and 19 picks, absolutely all the casual fans and E!SPN would be saying how great of a year Eli had, and how he's going to get better.
Instead we just them whining about how Eli turns the ball over too much.
It makes me lol, but also gets me annoyed sometimes.
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08-17-2011, 12:43 PM
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I’m surprised we haven’t seen more great grabs from WR Mario Manningham in his fourth camp, though today he had one when he leaped on an in cut inside CB Corey Webster and reached behind him to make the catch. “Nice grab, ‘rio,” his teammates yelled. But Manningham and QB Eli Manning just look to be a bit off right now. On one play, Manningham turned the wrong way and Manning threw 5 feet to his right.
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08-17-2011, 02:15 PM
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Boley been banged up the past few days. This UDFA Paysinger been making an impression.
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08-17-2011, 02:26 PM
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I know Ingram has looked well in camp also but I didn't see much from them in the game. I thought Herzlich looked the best.
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08-17-2011, 06:04 PM
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Sounds like more trouble from camp today in regards to guys running wrong routes. I can't believe we haven't simplified this system just a little bit over the years.
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08-17-2011, 07:28 PM
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Eli's not having a good camp guys. I'm starting to get concerned.
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08-17-2011, 08:50 PM
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Anyone see the Francessa - Rolle interview on YES? If you did, you know why I'm bringing it up...
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08-17-2011, 08:56 PM
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Eli's not having a good camp guys. I'm starting to get concerned.
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Sounds like he's been mediocre but it also sounds like the system is killing us in preseason. Manningham and Beckum running the wrong routes the last 2 days.
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08-17-2011, 09:26 PM
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Personally I think it's a bit more than 7-9. 9 would be the low end. 21, 23, and were so frustrating. 23 and 24 we were so out of the game, Eli just didn't care and was forcing things for a miracle.
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08-18-2011, 09:09 AM
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Eli misses Steve Smith because he was such a crisp route runner and Eli could depend on him being exactly where he was supposed to be.
Boss was also "safety valve" for Eli and losing both Boss and Smith means Eli has a much smaller margin for error now.
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08-18-2011, 11:37 AM
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Anyone see the Francessa - Rolle interview on YES? If you did, you know why I'm bringing it up...
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I saw it and I have no idea what you're talking about. I actually thought he came off much better than what I expected.
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08-18-2011, 11:57 AM
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I saw it and I have no idea what you're talking about. I actually thought he came off much better than what I expected.
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Really. Rolle was avoiding making any real answer like the plague. You could tell 100% he was lying.
I think the questions caught him off guard. He should been expecting them.
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08-18-2011, 12:11 PM
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Really. Rolle was avoiding making any real answer like the plague. You could tell 100% he was lying.
I think the questions caught him off guard. He should been expecting them.
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I didn't care about the U stuff but he came off much more intelligent than I expected. Frankly I thought he would sound like a moron but I didn't get much of that. Terrell Thomas impressed me a ton in his interview.
Francesa is the worst interviewer ever though. He asks a question and the player/coach/GM/owner start to answer them and then before they get half way through he's answering it for him and already into the next question. I counted about 5 or 6 dirty looks from Kiwi, Eli, Reese, and some other that were getting ticked off about that.
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08-18-2011, 08:35 PM
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Cotchery looking good tonight. I wonder if we even talked to him.
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08-18-2011, 08:46 PM
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samuel gettin beat on a textbook fade, wheres the JBX or whatever his name is? Even though its preseason, hes a starter and Brown just began getting time, Samuel can be burned in man to man.
Edit: on a sidenote, sinorice moss returned a kick and didnt get scared going through the middle...
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08-18-2011, 08:52 PM
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It helps when Tom Quinn is not your ST coach.
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08-19-2011, 11:25 AM
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Osi out 3-4 weeks with arthroscopic knee surgery. Glad to see they're doing this now so he'll be ready by Week 2.
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08-19-2011, 11:34 AM
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Just time to see more JPP!
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08-19-2011, 12:16 PM
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Schefter said it could be up to six weeks, but I'm happy to see JPP get more time on the field.
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08-19-2011, 12:25 PM
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Schefter said it could be up to six weeks, but I'm happy to see JPP get more time on the field.
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I believe Coughlin said he might even be back for opening day. Regardless our schedule doesn't get hard until after the bye week so as long as he's back before then we should be fine. Like Damix said this is just more development time for JPP.
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We're signing DT Jimmy Kennedy.
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08-22-2011, 01:26 PM
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Any chance we can talk with Indy about a possible Rosenfels/Tamme swap? They have a desperate need for a quality backup quarterback and we have a cheaper option here already in Carr who already knows the system and they have Clark coming back healthy, capping the value of Tamme. Thoughts?
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08-22-2011, 01:30 PM
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Any chance we can talk with Indy about a possible Rosenfels/Tamme swap? They have a desperate need for a quality backup quarterback and we have a cheaper option here already in Carr who already knows the system and they have Clark coming back healthy, capping the value of Tamme. Thoughts?
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While it makes a lot of sense. You rarely see deals like that go down in the NFL.
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08-22-2011, 01:35 PM
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Yeah I know, but just like you said though, it makes a lot of sense and with the lack of quality quarterbacks on the market, you'd hope Jerry at least called Polian and Irsay to see if we could have a match.
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