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Old 08-24-2011, 06:31 PM    (permalink
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Hopefully we use a lot more 4 ace packages this year. I don't like that amoeba defense Fewell used last year. 4 aces is the way to go.

Even with our injuries in the secondary, I think we have a lot of manuverability with our safeties to put together some good coverages. We're just going to have to rely on our fronts more this year to get pressure.

I see Rolle playing nickel CB in our nickel strong packages. I don't think Coe or Bly or anybody sniffs the field unless they come out 4 WR.
I'm with this guy. Our secondary is still good to shut down 3 wide, as long as we don't get any further injuries to the secondary and Prince comes back and can adjust before we need to shut down teams that go 4 wide. Especially if Fewell gets more creative now that's he got a better grasp of the talent at his disposal and has had a whole summer to play with that knowledge and his playbook. I like him as a coach although I do share BBD's disdain for his cover-2 back ground, I also think it wouldn't be far fetch for him to have studied up on how spags used to use our players to try and incorporate my A-gap pressure, or at least I hope he did cause he's a smart guy and a passionate coach with a lot of talent to work with.
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Let's not forget why they moved Rolle to S. It's because he sucked at CB.
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Let's not forget why they moved Rolle to S. It's because he sucked at CB.
He was alright, it was mostly because he could make a lot more plays if they gave him the freedom of playing safety.
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He also played on a terrible team. Now he has a better team with a better pass rush so he won't have to cover as long.
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He also played on a terrible team. Now he has a better team with a better pass rush so he won't have to cover as long.
Or as often, or over as much room since he'll be covering the inside receivers and not the outside guys who could just burn past him.
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Which makes my point that he wasn't that good of a CB to begin with. It's not a big deal as we won't ask him to play CB that often but it's not like he was a world beater there.

I'm really interested to see how the WR corps gets picked. Everyone has made a case for themself besides Calhoun. Barden was running at about 90-100% yesterday also so I'm hoping he gets back for that last preseason game against the Pats.
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Fenikz tells me all the time that Rolle's best position is nickel CB, haha.
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Fenikz tells me all the time that Rolle's best position is nickel CB, haha.
It's cause that was the first position they stuck him at that he excelled at. Getting to play inside meant he didn't have as much ground to be responsible for. Sure he wasn't a great corner, that's why he's not going to be playing on the outside and once Prince is back and caught up will be replaced. But it's nice that's he's got that ability so that we can go into nickel formations.
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What do you guys think our 53 man roster will look like? My guess is this:
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Which makes my point that he wasn't that good of a CB to begin with. It's not a big deal as we won't ask him to play CB that often but it's not like he was a world beater there.

I'm really interested to see how the WR corps gets picked. Everyone has made a case for themself besides Calhoun. Barden was running at about 90-100% yesterday also so I'm hoping he gets back for that last preseason game against the Pats.
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It's cause that was the first position they stuck him at that he excelled at. Getting to play inside meant he didn't have as much ground to be responsible for. Sure he wasn't a great corner, that's why he's not going to be playing on the outside and once Prince is back and caught up will be replaced. But it's nice that's he's got that ability so that we can go into nickel formations.
giving rolle the nb position will create turnovers, we just need to hope that Grant/Sash can suffice opposite kenny

Rolle was deadly inside, this also gives us a legit blitzer out of the defensive backfield, and being able to screw around with things.
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I really hope Grant can reproduce his season having to cover more ground as a more traditional safety.
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For what it's worth, I felt that playing nickel CB was more difficult than the sidelines, all things equal.

When you play the sidelines you can use the border as an extra defender, but in nickel, you have another cut you have to defend. It's harder.

Especially if the WR starts drifting to the sideline, just nudge him with your hips and try to get him out of bounds, if he does, you don't even have to play him anymore bc he can't be the next player to touch the ball.

I only played high school ball though, and they let us rough up WRs. Not sure if they still do, I haven't followed high school ball in a long while, but we got away with murder.
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It sounds like Cruz is going to be our slot btw.
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If he can handle it then so be it. Let him be Y for 1 personnel package, Hixon in another, and MM in another.
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Umm WTF are the NFL, Giants, and Jets doing. They won't cancel this game because they're so greedy for the almighty dollar. We now have to play 2 preseason games in 3 days. Are they kidding me?
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Steve Smith returned to practice for the Eagles already. I can't believe how bad we screwed this one up.
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It's a glorified walk through. Let's not go crazy about it. And we didn't screw it up. Do you think it's coincidence that all of Ben D's clients ALL ended up on the Eagles this FA?
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You're right that's not a coincidence but our medical staff or Reese flubbed this one. It's a walk through but once he practices he can't be placed on PUP as you know. This one will sting me all year so I'll try not to bring it up often.
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You're right that's not a coincidence but our medical staff or Reese flubbed this one. It's a walk through but once he practices he can't be placed on PUP as you know. This one will sting me all year so I'll try not to bring it up often.
Again, it's science not a subjective thing like he made the right decision or wrong one.. One veteran doctor who did the surgery gave our guys advice. Smith turned down the big offer prior to the injury, and according to the reports, didn't give us a chance to match.

I don't blame Reese or the doctors. They haven't made me think otherwise. Like I said on BBI, it's not like we are the Cards, Lions, or Browns were mismanagement occurred too often where we should be very skeptical.
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here is the big discussion going on where I am in.
Yeah I saw you post on there. I try to stay away from posting on BBI even though I read everything.
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Yeah I saw you post on there. I try to stay away from posting on BBI even though I read everything.
Hehe why? It's the big leagues there. If you get respect there, it says a lot, at least to me. So it's fun site, and they are quick to call ********. It's an interesting dynamic there. You have to be a good poster there or else one doesn't get respect.

You should go. You are a good poster, now carry it on there.
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Hehe why? It's the big leagues there. If you get respect there, it says a lot, at least to me. So it's fun site, and they are quick to call ********. It's an interesting dynamic there. You have to be a good poster there or else one doesn't get respect.

You should go. You are a good poster, now carry it on there.
I just go there to get up to the second news. But reading that forum can make your head hurt.
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There are a ton of great posters over there but I like our community here. All the G-Men fans here are pretty knowledgeable and we don't have to deal with the idiots as much.
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I just go there to get up to the second news. But reading that forum can make your head hurt.
Yeah there are some ignorant posters there but go to giants.com or other NYG forums. It's worse there. I think all in all the good outweights the bad on BBI by a lot.
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